And, I saw one of his heads as if it had been slain. Revelation 13:3,4.

Recently, while talking to the son-in-law, he asks me, how do the events going on around us tie into the church’s being caught up and the antichrist entering upon the scene. He has his own ideas, but he does NOT read a Bible, he relies solely on internet teachings. (To think that you can listen to these people without being discerning is a trap of the enemy, Satan. You have to know your Bible, or will be lead into false teachings that will bind you to guilt and prevent you from enjoying the freedom in the Holy Spirit, nor will you understand things like the Revelation.)

I responded by telling him that my own journey to understand the Bible came out of a desire to undo lies and false teachings that I learned in church. Surprisingly, the word lies evoked a negative reaction, as though the church would never try to manipulate your emotions and actions. Religion seems to have one purpose as it tries to control you; they do this because they do not trust the Holy Spirit’s ability to lead and guide you.

Jesus told the disciples that the Holy Spirit will come after He goes away.

“But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you. “And He, when He comes, will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment; (John 16:7-8 NASB)

Jesus did go away.

but you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be My witnesses both in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria, and even to the remotest part of the earth.” And after He had said these things, He was lifted up while they were looking on, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. (Acts 1:8-9 NASB)

And finally, even if I don’t have an internet pastor in Indiana, I can read my bible knowing that He will guide me and teach me.

“But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come. (John 16:13 NASB)

So, the short answer, is yes, everything we are experiencing and see is leading to the great reset. This reset includes the purposeful collapse of economies, the decline of nations (America), and the collapse of others, such as Afghanistan; and, even though they deny it and cannot see it, the answer includes God’s wrath.

Have you noticed that China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, and the regular players are buying into the Middle Eastern poker match?

People groups that we thought would never be able to play on a global battlefield, have had $85 billion dollars in arms and equipment handed to them.

Did you notice how quickly China and Russia dove into the bloody ruins to place bids on the armaments?

The ten nations that are going to come against Israel are already aligned, and God, tells us that He will put a hook in the nose of Gog, draw him into battle against Israel, and he will die there. Oh, don’t get me wrong, Israel will take a frightful beating in the process, but the antichrist – one who comes out of the beast from the sea, will bring about some form of peace; and, if you are paying attention, then you know that Israel is not named among those the antichrist makes this peace with.  

It’s a lot to take in, I know, but if I can understand it then you can too.

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If you can understand that –

  • Both the serpent and the dragon is Satan;

    Genesis 3 Satan is referred to as the serpent.

    In Isaiah 26:21 God speaks of coming out of His place to punish the inhabitants of the earth. With this statement, we have the context for Isaiah 27 where God refers to Satan as Leviathan and the serpent that lives in the sea. Revelation 12 tells us that the angels clashed with the dragon and threw him down to earth. Satan is the dragon.

  • That the sand of the seashore represents not only the nations, but more specifically the Middle Eastern nations – the Muslim nations coming against Israel in the last days;

    God was talking to Abraham in Genesis 22:17 when He said, “ I will greatly multiply your seed as the stars of the heavens and as the sand which is on the seashore.” That seed came through both Isaac and Ishamel.

  • That the beast coming up out of the sea represents kingdoms, empires, and nations; and that these nations, with the exception of the fourth empire and its offshoots, have been shown to us in Daniel’s prophecies. Daniel 7:17; 2:31-33

  • The ten horns and seven heads represents, as Dr. J. Vernon McGee tells us, “…a later development of the fourth empire, as seen in the ten toes, and not a separate kingdom. Note: the horns do not grow out of a dead beast, therefore, we are looking at a kingdom that is alive today,

    and the meaning of the ten horns that were on its head and the other horn which came up, and before which three of them fell, namely, that horn which had eyes and a mouth uttering great boasts and which was larger in appearance than its associates.” (Daniel 7:20 NASB)

    “Thus he said: ‘The fourth beast will be a fourth kingdom on the earth, which will be different from all the other kingdoms and will devour the whole earth and tread it down and crush it. ‘As for the ten horns, out of this kingdom ten kings will arise; and another will arise after them, and he will be different from the previous ones and will subdue three kings.

    (Daniel 7:23-24 NASB)

    We know historically that the third beast was Alexander the Great; who then was the fourth?

The fourth empire, in opposition to repeated teachings, was the Seleucid and Ptolemaic empires. Sure, they had strength, but the strength was halved.

In what way did they end up becoming different since they both came out of the Grecian empire?

They both became assimilated into the Islamic/Assyrian empires that eventually surrounded them and were both ingested into the Assyrian ways and ideology.

then you can count yourselves among those that Daniel was speaking of when he said,

And the teachers and those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the firmament, and those who turn many to righteousness (to uprightness and right standing with God) [shall give forth light] like the stars forever and ever.” Daniel 12:3 AMP

We covered Revelation 13:1, so let’s fly through two or more.

Revelation 13:2 Moffatt NT (2) “The Beast I saw resembled a leopard, his feet were like a bear’s, and his mouth like a lion’s. To him the dragon gave his own power and his own throne and great authority.”

  1. We are not making this up, nor are we going to try to assign this imagery to some Chinese creation. It is what it is, imagery that represents empires or kingdoms. With imagery like this, “The Beast I saw resembled a leopard, his feet were like a bear’s, and his mouth like a lion’s,” it is easy to see how destructive this thing has been and will be.

  2. Pay attention to the words here. To him the dragon gave his own power and his own throne and great authority.”

    Immediately the empire idea has settled upon one person. I can understand this as, NO empire, with the exception of perhaps the Roman empire has operated with anything other than a dictatorial head, the Romans had a senate, for all the good it did them.

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  1. How many people in the world have we seen where the dragon gave them the power to commit their atrocities?

    The numbers could be quite high as God has used men to move His plan forward, and Satan, has readily empowered them. Nebuchadnezzar, King Ahab, Haman, Hitler, Pol pot of Cambodia, you should be getting the point.

    Consider the recent news about Afghanistan. For certain, most of us are appalled, but is there anything about what happened that makes sense? NO, and that is because Satan is empowering the decision-makers across the globe and especially here in America.

Keeping in mind that our first understanding of the beast is that it represents kingdoms, empires, or Caliphates.

I want you to see what many believe to be the finest interpretation put into the hands of man, the KJV.

Revelation 13:3 KJV “And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.”

A beast with seven heads.

Where and how do you come up with the idea, that in the last days, almost at a time that for the church, won’t make a bit of difference, someone will put a bullet into the head of this new world leader that kills him, just so that he can be raised up to life again?

You don’t, as one the empires, possibly a Caliphate, sustains what, to the world seems like a deathly wound.

How do you kill an empire or kingdom?

Slowly, in most cases. This was the case for the Ottoman Empire, an Islamic Empire, but its end came in 1924 and the entire world breathed a sigh of relief because they all thought this global threat was done with (dead.) So much for that dream, as it finally, after many attempts to revive it, came back to life in 1979 with the Islamic revolution in Iran.

Revelation 13:3-4 NASB … And the whole earth was amazed and followed after the beast; (4) they worshiped the dragon because he gave his authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast, and who is able to wage war with him?”

  • And the whole earth was amazed and followed after the beast.

    The whole earth?

Is that the same thing as Governor Newsom of California, saying that 80% of the state had been vaccinated with the Covid 19 garbage? Not a chance, it’s more like 20% and the Governor is trying to make himself look good.

But didn’t we talk about seeing the world in biblical terms?

We did, and all God is concerned about is the region He said He would give to Abraham. Sadly, for the Mid-East, that is most of it, or as the passage says, the whole earth, as far as the Muslims are concerned.

Revelation 13:3b AMP … and the whole earth went after the beast in amazement and admiration.

Some, who display wisdom, will tell you that the Muslims will NOT follow after anyone who is NOT a Muslim. That means they will not follow after Emmanuel Macron of France, or Angela Merkel of Germany, and now, after Afghanistan, there should be NO ONE following after President Joe Biden of America.

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But, what about former American President Barack Obama?

They might follow after him because he has openly stated that he loved those blaring wake up calls to Islamic prayer time, and he is still pushing his weight around Washington DC.

Does the world go after Obama in amazement and admiration?

Not yet, but they might when he jumps in the middle of a ghastly fight in Israel and calls for peace, and gets it.

  • they worshiped the dragon because he gave his authority to the beast.”

    Wait a minute. The majority of the world has no grasp that there is a dragon/serpent/Satan, nor that could or would give his power or authority to the beast. Add, that this same world has no grasp on the idea of there being a beast/empire issue. What they do have is Allah.

    Have you ever given any thought to the idea that Allah is just another name for Satan?

    Consider that one day, the false prophet will set up an image of the beast.

    Since NO ONE has seen Allah or Satan, how would that work out?

Back to a dose of reality for a moment.

  • Who is like the beast, and who is able to wage war with him”

    We are getting ahead of the horse here when we focus on Barack Obama as this is a ruling/warring body, not so unlike the Taliban, or the Iranians.

    Since the common bond in the Middle East is Islam, then we should be looking for anything that comes close to the Caliphate idea, something that unifies them toward a goal, such as destroying Israel. Since the Taliban recently had a victory handed to them, the Middle Eastern world is looking at this band of bullies as unbeatable.


What does verse four tell us?

they worshiped the dragon because he gave his authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast, and who is able to wage war with him?”
(Revelation 13:4 NASB)

Satan gives his authority to the beast.

Authority, what kind of authority does Satan have?

Satan has, for the moment dominion over the earth, thanks to Adam; and, he has deception, that is it. If you have been paying attention, we have a power-mad group of people trying to exert authority over the entire earth.

The beast?

We know that the beast is representative of a kingdom, although those are rare these days, but we also learned that the beast empire produces a man, the antichrist, who is also known as a beast, and not because of physical prowess.

So when the dragon/Satan gives the beast his authority we could be talking about an empire that gains some Satanic power (although this the idea is only marginally logical,) or we are talking about one person who speaks as though he has control over this group of people and somewhat global control as well.

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It seems that we have to make a distinction between the two as we try to make people understand the Revelation. There is only one good way to explain the situation and that is through the usage of context.

Verse 4 also says they worship the beast. This conversation could still go two ways. Try to imagine a worship of the country of Iran.

It doesn’t seem to fit the narrative, does it?

If this is the embodiment of a god, say, Allah, in a man, then worshiping the beast makes all the sense in the world. And though, as of this date 09/06/21 I have no good clues as to who this is, we do know he is coming and is most likely ready, waiting in the wings.

John Gill’s commentary states that they are “subject to him as their temporal lord, to whom they give homage; obedience, and tribute, but in a religious way.

The word worshiped – Strong’s Greek concordance G4352 proskuneō, tells us that it means to kiss, like a dog licking his master’s hand.

You may not love the Pope, but most people, given the chance to pay their respects, would kiss his hand in homage.

I will end the Bible study here, but you need to know that there is a good chance that we, the church,, will be raptured out of here at any moment. I wanted you to understand and know Jesus through the Revelation; and, if you do not know Him, that you would come to know Him. His thoughts toward you are good and life with Him is peace. Believe that He is, and come to Him.

For God loved the world so dearly that he gave up his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life, instead of perishing(John 3:16 Moffatt NT)

This belief will work even if the rapture has come, the only problem is that you chose to push the boundaries of God’s grace and will now have to prove your commitment to God through martyrdom. If you can remember back to the Taliban overrunning all of Afghanistan, setting aside how complicit America was in that happening, those “zealots” found and killed all the Christians in that country within a few short weeks of their take over.

You see, it’s not just God wanting to see your heart, He already sees that. You still have the drive of crazies trying to reduce the population, while ignoring the fact that God’s wrath is being poured upon all the earth because of their unrepentant sins.

Come to Him. Run to Him, and give Him your life.


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And I saw a beast coming up out of the sea. Revelation 13:1.

Here we are in the thirteenth chapter of the Revelation and thus far we have seen a chronological chain of events, many of which bring about one thing, death. But we have also learned of background information, and historical information which all mesh with the judgments and explain, to some degree, what the imagery means.

I frequently have to refresh my memory because of the similarities we see, and far too much incorrect information. So here is a recap.

  • Chapters 6, 7, and 8:1-5 announce the seal judgments. The 7th event, whether it be a seal judgment, a trumpet judgment, or a bowl judgment, all work the same way.

    We have the entrance of the antichrist. Keyword: death.

  • Chapter 8:6 through 11:15 Bring forth the trumpet judgments.

    A key to understanding or holding what happens here, in your head, is to remember one-third. One-third of the earth was burned; the sea is destroyed along with its sea life; freshwater is polluted and undrinkable; literal darkness because one-third of the sun’s light is obliterated as well as the moon.

    There is a bizarre twist as Revelation 9:1, almost as though it just happened, tells us a star fell to earth and brings great havoc. This event happened, quite probably, before Adam; and yet, Revelation 9:2 defines locust-like creatures, whose tail is like a scorpion, stinging all except for those 144,000 Jewish young men, who God has sealed.

    The sixth angel, within the trumpet judgments, tells us that four, deadly angels, who have been chained up to this point, are released. Considering that one angel killed all the firstborn, that were NOT protected by the blood of the lamb, in Egypt, that night. What could four angels do? Do they do the damage? No, they release a 200 million strong, demonic cavalry. These nightmarish creatures kill one-third of the remaining population by the smoke, brimstone, fire, and plagues that come out of their mouths.

    Revelation 9:21 defines why all these judgments are coming upon the world.

    • they did not repent of their murders nor of their sorceries nor of their immorality nor of their thefts.”

      Murders, that seems easy enough to understand and includes the murders committed through the usage of Covid 19 jabs.

      Sorceries – Wow, you could take this anywhere, although, left alone, the mind takes you to Satanism, witchcraft, and other backwood spiritualism. However, pharmakeia, the Greek origin of the word sorceries means medication, “pharmacy.” Apply this to the Covid 19 and you should be able to associate the murder aspect.

  • Chapter ten speaks of an undefined, little book and a command to John saying, “You must prophesy again concerning many peoples and nations and tongues and kings.”

  • Revelation 11:15 brings on the seventh trumpet. However, chapter eleven stands out because it tells us that John is told to measure the temple but to exclude the outer court as that is given over to the gentiles for forty-two months (three and one-half years.)

    Consider that John is an aged man and this was written on Patmos island, about 96 A.D. The temple had been destroyed in 70 A.D. So it should be obvious that God is NOT telling him to measure any temple that stood on the earth at that time. He could be talking about the one that Israel is about to build, or He could be talking about the temple in the new Jerusalem. Most likely God is talking about the one to be rebuilt (yes, that would mean that John has already seen what it looks like.)

    Why do I think it will be the rebuilt one?

    Because I do not see the Gentiles, during the 1000 years, treading disrespectfully upon the court of the gentiles.

    Revelation 11:3 suddenly inserts the two prophets sent from God. These two stand in the streets of Jerusalem for 1260 days, this too is three and one-half years. This information about the two witnesses continues until Revelation 11:14.

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  • Revelation Chapter 12 opens with “A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; and she was with child; and she *cried out, being in labor and in pain to give birth.”

    This woman has multiple definitions, such as Eve, Mary, and Israel; and then there is the child. One of the strongest images it defines for us is the astrological alignment of stars that guided many throughout the years. The Magi stands out in my mind as they follow the alignment of stars to find the, now two-year-old child, Jesus.

    The child, a male child, has been the target of Satan’s attempts to stop God’s plan since Eve and the garden. Jesus is one of the strongest images, while the nation Israel is the other.

  • Revelation 12 shows us the nation Israel being attacked.

    Only a third survive and escape. Where they go is NOT clear but there is a reference to fleeing to the mountains and Israel has a few. All we are told is that Israel goes into the wilderness for 1260 days. This number has popped up several times now, so it is either the first half or the second. The first half seems to be relatively peaceful, if you can exclude all the death and destruction that is being poured out upon the earth, and that makes me think this occurs with the onslaught from the false prophet, who also operates for 1260 days.

    Those that think it is Petra could be right but you can understand Petra, in Lebanon, as a water-carved canyon, and you are asking God to stash approximately 3 million people in the carved out caves that exist there.

    Again, we have information and history, as we are told that Satan gets thrown to the earth. But we already saw that in Revelation 9. What we get here is very detailed as Satan is now at war with the Saints. Revelation 12 verse 11 tells us

    they overcame him because of the blood of the Lamb and because of the word of their testimony, and they did not love their life even when faced with death.”

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Overcome is the Greek word nikaō and also means to subdue, conquer, and prevail.

That means that, still here on earth, having to prove their allegiance to Christ, they, for the most part, give up their lives for Christ.

Where and how does conquering and subduing come into play?

What does a testimony look like?

I don’t know for sure, but many people, like we have recently witnessed in Afghanistan at the hands of the Taliban, have been pushed to their knees with the instructions to worship Allah or die. And so they choose to die. We, don’t get to see if they displayed remarkable strength or not.

So much for a recap, what does chapter 13 tell us?

Satan has been thrown to earth and is now at war with the Saints.

Typically I use the NASB, but Revelation 13:1 is one of those passages where there is a huge error in translation. I am not in love with the MKJV but look at this.

Revelation 13:1 MKJV And I stood on the sand of the sea, and I saw a beast coming up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns. And on its horns were ten crowns, and on its heads was the name of blasphemy.

The King James only crowd could revel in victory because their translation got it right. Fortunately, it is easy to understand that God, in the vision, has John standing on the seashore much like a speck among the nations.

Another thing that causes me grief is that I found NO other translation that uses the term dragon. I mention this because, having looked at information to inform myself as to which translations/transliterations would be best, I chose the NASB and use it as my primary Bible. A friend has asked me, on several occasions, which translation to use. I have told him that every translation has issues; yes, even the King James, and I learned this from the late Dr. Chuck Missler. Let me show you a recent bad example that was made clear.

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
(2 Thessalonians 2:3 KJV)

Here, Paul is reassuring the church in Thessalonica that the day when God’s wrath shows up, will not come, (and as the KJV puts it,) “except there come a falling away first.” Many of us have learned from Dr. Andy Woods, that the Catholic church, disgusted with people pulling out of the “state” church, and going over to the Protestant church. So, the Catholic church, with the backing of the King, had the Bible rewritten to substantiate their disgust, and possibly manipulate people into returning to the church, along with their tithe money. And thus we got the King James Version. Historically, one of the first bibles printed was the Geneva bible and it reads thus.

Let no man deceiue you by any meanes: for that day shall not come, except there come a departing first, and that that man of sinne be disclosed, euen the sonne of perdition,
(2 Thessalonians 2:3 Geneva)

The Geneva bible got it right, as the Greek word apostasia can also mean a departure, and the context of 2Thessalonians 2 clearly implies a physical departure.

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The word beast, which is the common understanding, is the Greek word thērion and it means a dangerous animal. This word could represent any number of animals, however, as we will see, it has some distinct characteristics, none of which are found on earthly creatures.

I show you the NASB here so that you can see the error and possibly understand the confusion that such errors cause.

Revelation 13:1 NASB And the dragon stood on the sand of the seashore. …

Back to the MKJV.

  • I stood on the sand of the sea,”

    It is John that is standing on the sand of the sea. As Bible scholars, you know and understand that our Biblical narratives are all centered around one place, the land that God promised Abraham, and nothing less.

    The sand, represents the hordes of people deemed the nations, but most specifically the Middle Eastern nations and their oil.

  • a beast coming up out of the sea,”

    First off, the sea is specific, however, we Gentiles always picture the ocean nearest us. As I said above, this is the Mediterranean. The is also representative of legions of people.

    The final ruling empire comes out of this beast.

    To help you understand that prophecy repeats, and the prophet Daniel spoke of a beast coming out of the sea, and described the animal characteristics of the four heads. John’s audience would have been familiar with this.

    Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great seaAnd four great beasts came up from the seadiverse one from another. The first was like a lionand had eagle’s wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man’s heart was given to it.the beast out of the sea And behold another beast, a second, like to a bearand it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh. After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopardwhich had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it. After this, I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it, and it had ten horns.” (Daniel 7:2-7 KJV)

  • having ten horns and seven heads.”

    This empire exerts its influence for a very long time and has multiple rulers.

    One of the leading “nations” in the Biblical narratives is the Assyrians/Persia.

    When we think of Persia who are we thinking about today?


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I my lifetime I have seen at least four heads that have ruled that nation. Many years ago, the United States placed the Shah of Iran into power, and the nation operated in a somewhat democratic manner, much like Afghanistan just did. The Shah was eventually run out of town in the late 1970s and the Ayatollah Khomeini was voted into power.

Daniel 2:41,42 tells us of the ten toes, all of which are derivatives of the legs of iron. These ten toes are themselves smaller and weaker empires.

Revelation 13:1, in talking about the crowns on their heads, tells us that they have blasphemous names. Ponder that for a moment. Few of us speak Farsi or some of the other dialects and therefore have no clue that their names have meanings. The only thing that stands out in my mind is the commonality of Islam, and Islam, with its worship of Allah tells people that there is no god besides Allah. Jesus defined blasphemy as attributing the things of God to someone else, namely Satan.

Isaiah 37:23 NASB “Whom have you reproached and blasphemed? And against whom have you raised your voice and haughtily lifted up your eyes? Against the Holy One of Israel!”

The verse above defines the majority of the world these days.

If the rapture has not happened count yourselves fortunate, because you still have a moment to give your life to Jesus Christ and believe. After the church is gone and you will know it because the ground will rip open as bodies will be reattached to their spirits, as we go up to meet Jesus in the clouds. Only moments after that event, the hell that people have been talking about will begin to be unleashed, without any restraint.

But believe in what?

That Jesus Christ died for your sins, that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day.

He did all this for you and He has been waiting for you. It is because of what He did that lets me know that you are already forgiven, but He wants you to know that understand it, and accept that He did it for you. That is what we believe as followers of Jesus Christ.

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The serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman. Revelation 12: 15-17.

Most recently, we talked about how Satan, who tried to kill the male child, now persecutes the woman who gave birth to the child.

And when the dragon saw that he was thrown down to the earth, he persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male child. (Revelation 12:13 NASB)

From the first day of the revelation of the mystery, which occurred that day in the garden, he has attempted to kill anything that looked like the male child. Ah, and herein is an aspect of the mystery; your enemy did not know who this male child was.

For us this male child, in the broad view, is the nation of Israel (the male child is also seen as the woman.) This nation began its existence in Egypt with Jacob. By the time the new Pharaoh comes into power, God’s people lived in the finest and greenest area of Egypt, in vast numbers. This piece of information was so alarming that the Egyptians made slaves out of them.

How did that happen?

If you are aware of the plight of God’s people, then you know that they were making babies like there was no tomorrow, so the Pharaoh orders the midwives to kill the Israeli babies; one did not and we got Moses out of that. A narrow view of Revelation 12:13 would have us looking at Jesus as the male child.

Did Satan try to kill Jesus?

He certainly did, but he did not succeed, as Jesus is still alive.

Having tried to kill off any number of males, none of which slowed God down, he turned his perpetual attention to killing off anything that looked like the nation Israel. If you are familiar with the book of Esther,

He was bringing up Hadassah, that is Esther, his uncle’s daughter, for she had no father or mother. Now the young lady was beautiful of form and face, and when her father and her mother died, Mordecai took her as his own daughter. Esther 2:7 NASB)

I made a point of telling you her Jewish name, as this is a Jewish story and an example of how one man attempted to kill off the Jews in a holocaust.

You should be well aware that the man who created the havoc was Haman.

Then Haman said to King Ahasuerus, “There is a certain people scattered and dispersed among the peoples in all the provinces of your kingdom; their laws are different from those of all other people and they do not observe the king’s laws, so it is not in the king’s interest to let them remain. (Esther 3:8 NASB)

Wow, if you wanted to provoke a kings’ anger, you could not make a more conclusive list.

Do you think, in the environment that is rapidly developing around the Christ-followers today, that this very thing will not happen to you? Look at this.

“If it is pleasing to the king, let it be decreed that they be destroyed, and I will pay ten thousand talents of silver into the hands of those who carry on the king’s business, to put into the king’s treasuries.” (Esther 3:9 NASB)

Back to the broad spectrum view. We, who are followers of Christ, are also the male child.

Satan is still trying to kill the male child, and this is where we pick up the story.

Revelation 12:15 NASB And the serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, so that he might cause her to be swept away with the flood.

Chinese dragon fountain.

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Poured – is the Greek word ballō and means to vomit.

Water, it seems like a simple, understandable word. It is the Greek word hudōr and means water, as if rainy.

After (the woman Israel) – This is the Greek word opisō and carries the idea of behind, or at one’s back. There is definitely a feel for this remnant of Israel running for their lives.

While you may not look at these words and see a massive torrent, capable of killing off approximately three million people, the verse continues.

  • so that he might cause her to be swept away with the flood.”

Satan is trying to kill them all off.

Does Satan gain some advantage or a reprieve from God by killing off millions of people?

The answer is NO. God has a plan and it has always included putting Satan away for a thousand years, and then finally dispatching him to his permanent silencing in an eternal hell.

Revelation 12:16 NASB “But the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and drank up the river which the dragon poured out of his mouth.”

Whoa, hold up here a minute; the earth helped the woman.

Helped is the Greek word boēthéō. It means to run on hearing a cry, to give assistance.

How do you read a statement like this and not see the earth as having some ability to comprehend and communicate?

Some of the Pharisees in the crowd said to Him, “Teacher, rebuke Your disciples.” But Jesus answered, “I tell you, if these become silent, the stones will cry out!

(Luke 19:39-40 NASB)

Here again, I see the earth as having the ability to communicate and comprehend, and the Psalmist conveys the idea that everything can call out to God.

Let the sea roar and all it contains, The world and those who dwell in it. Let the rivers clap their hands, Let the mountains sing together for joy” (Psalms 98:7-8 NASB)

  • the earth opened its mouth and drank up the river which the dragon poured out of his mouth.”

Yes, I realize that I am limiting God by thinking this way, but I can only see one logical thing; and that would be the earth splitting open and any water flowing after escaping Israel, going into the crevice.

Mouth is an interesting Greek word that I became acquainted with in Horticulture. It is the Greek word stoma and means the mouth as if a gash in the face. In plants, it is an opening on the bottom of leaves from which the plant exchanges oxygen for carbon dioxide.

Revelation 12:17 NASB So the dragon was enraged with the woman and went off to make war with the rest of her children, who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus.

When I began this study into Revelation 12 I said, we have come back to our history lesson again.

If I apply that thought to Revelation 12:17 am I talking history or a future event?

The answer is both. History because Satan fell before time began, and has been at battle, in an attempt to kill off anyone who may have become the man child himself.

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Of course, after Jesus Christ came, and the Father announced that He was the beloved Son in whom He was well pleased, there was no longer a need to kill off man-child possibilities. Don’t get me wrong, Satan is still out to kill you, through one of his demonic cohorts, but the reasons have shifted to, you look like the one I hate – Jesus.

So the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went off to make war with the rest of her children, who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus.”

In this case, the man child is Israel, the nation; and all attempts at destroying Israel have failed. So he goes and, not just bothers, but makes war with the rest of her children. These are either, the followers of Christ or the Jewish community. I lean toward them being followers of Christ.

How do I know that?

Because, for one, they keep the commandments.

Ah, but can any of us keep the commandments?

No, and that is why we needed a savior.

You might think that we Christians are the ones that keep the commandments, but look within the church and then tell me, how many hold tightly to the testimony of Jesus?

My first reaction is to say, not many. Oh sure, we gather there, but it is more of a social gathering and our commonality is a thin moral fiber called God.

I occasionally think that as a blogger, that does Bible studies daily, that I am holding to the testimony of Jesus more than most; however, I know me and know that I have my bad days as well. It is conversations like this that make me think that we need to realize how God thinks is all that matters; that is where a statement like this comes into play. “I have engraved you on the palm of my hand, and I will never forget you.”(Isaiah 49:17 )This passage demonstrates the depth of God’s love for you.

When I read the Revelation there are always two main themes running through my head.

First, this book is a book about Jesus (We are told immediately that it is a revealing of Jesus😉 that seems odd doesn’t it, especially since, in many ways, the gospels revealed Jesus to us. But, for the most part, the gospels revealed Jesus as a gentle shepherd, who draws all to Himself through His actions and message; and, the gospels revealed Jesus as the lamb who was slaughtered and placed upon the cross.

Another thing that I am aware of is that an uncountable number, get their heads clear and hold on to Jesus; this, of course, costs them their physical lives.

Have you ever thought about that?

It is these puny, temporary lives that impede us from seeking out the God who made us.

Why then, wouldn’t we want to clear ourselves and join Him?

I am not talking about suicide, I am talking about changing your focus off worldly desires and on to Jesus. Death has a way of doing just that, as it removes you into the spiritual realm; if you belong to Christ, then you are immediately in His presence at death, while those outside of the family, merely lie quietly, waiting for the final judgment. This final judgment is what you see in Matthew 25, and yes, there is mercy shown to those who acted like sheep. The sheep are defined as those who provided for Jesus by showing mercy to other humans in need. Read the story and you will understand.

Turning your life to Jesus now, before what many call the “tribulation” comes. If you have been living under a rock, then you may not be aware that the Taliban has been given control of Afghanistan once again; and, they are killing Christians and those who assisted the Allied forces. For them, the tribulation has begun, and yet, what we call “the tribulation,” is wrath from God and far worse than what we have been seeing. Turn to Jesus, and give Him your life.

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He pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child. Revelation 12:13-14.

In my last post I focused entirely on Revelation 12:11 as I asked the question, how and why did “they” overcome? The short answer is, because of the blood of the Lamb. That Lamb is Jesus, and no, He is not eternally pouring out His blood for us – besides, that would be disgusting and feed into the idea that Christ’s sacrifice was not enough; it was.

As we sat at the last of the summer concerts in the park, the singer, who had sounded fine to me, spoke out saying, “let me come clean. Two days ago I did not have a voice, at all.” Well, you would never have known it and he finished the night strong. Why tell you this? Because we can easily put our trust in a human, giving them a chance to pull through for us, and yet, struggle with putting our faith in God, His Word, and the sacrifice of His son.

Allow me to come clean.

I have done just that, struggling at times with my faith. I must tell you though, that any struggle I had believing came to an end around 2008 when I began to purposefully study the gospels with the express purpose of finding out who God is and what is His character.

I believed in God and His Son, but why did I struggle with the frequent moments of doubt. The main question was, is this “hope” that scripture speaks of, for real? In the gospels, I found the Jesus Christ I never knew; and, in Him, I saw the Father.

Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
(Hebrews 1:2-3 KJV)

Jesus, for the joy set before Him, voluntarily sacrificed His life, rose from the dead, intentionally poured out His blood as a high priest, and offered up Himself as the final sacrificial lamb for our sins.

Therefore my heart is glad and my glory rejoices; My flesh also will dwell securely. For You will not abandon my soul to Sheol; Nor will You allow Your Holy One to undergo decay. You will make known to me the path of life; In Your presence is fullness of joy; In Your right hand, there are pleasures forever. (Psalms 16:9-11 NASB)

He knew that the brutal torture and the pains of hell, would end back in the Father’s arms, and we would be His prize. He rescued all those who would accept His rescue.

He paid the bloody price for our redemption, can you accept that?

For us, it is really that simple.

Finally understanding the nature and character of God, I understood that the earth and the evil would be purged, sort of. I now had a hope that I could cling to; and yet, here we are, not only studying the Revelation but living it out before us, the scariest aspect of this destruction is that it would consume us all disregarding our hope.

Several people I pay attention to have done their homework and told us that God follows, with precision, the feasts that He laid out for the Jewish people, such as Passover. As these feasts have come up, (and no we gentile believers don’t really have a clue, unless you do your homework,) we have been told that these feasts are times within which we should watch for Jesus’ return for His bride. Sadly, I am still here, but I still have hope. A major anchor point that allows us to understand and advocate for prophecy, was Israel – the fig tree, and its rebirth as a nation, which happened in 1948. It is this generation that shall not pass away.

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On that note, we are still in Revelation chapter twelve, and it seems we are returning to our history lesson.

Revelation 12:12 Moffatt NT (12) Rejoice for this, O heavens and ye that dwell in them! But woe to earth and sea! The devil has descended to you in fierce anger, knowing that his time is short.”

Eugene Peterson put it that way.

  • So rejoice, O Heavens, and all who live there,”

Who is God talking to?

Assuming that this is a pre-creation scenario, then we are talking about the trinity and the remaining angels.

And another sign was seen in the heavens. And behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his heads! And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven and cast  them onto the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman being about to bear, so that when she bears he might devour her child. (Revelation 12:3-4 MKJV)

red dragon of revelation

We don’t really know what this looks like, but let’s assume this represents what scripture describes it as.

We know that the stars are angels.

And the fifth angel sounded. And I saw a star fall from the heaven to the earth, and it was given the key of the abyss. (Revelation 9:1 MKJV)

This “star” is a physical or spiritual being, we know this because it is given a key to hell. (Don’t foolishly assume that God would simply hand Satan the keys to hell; Satan deceived Eve to get them, while Adam, stood there doing nothing to stop Satan’s action, and therefore committed treason against God and handed the dominion of earth over to Satan.) Jesus said I beheld Satan fall like lightning to earth. (Luke 10:18). So, if I put together my evidence, then I can build a case proving that it was Satan that fell and he took a third of the angels with him.

Why in the world would they rejoice, because as we have witnessed, simply having Satan thrown to earth has done little more than cause the loss of generations of humans, endless wars, death, and a loss of peace?

The answer to this lies in a word, mystery, and God intentionally let the clues come out that day in the Garden, as He explained to Eve.

And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel.”
(Genesis 3:15 NASB)

Paul told us that the plan to restore all things has been a mystery since the beginning of time.

… according to the revelation of the mystery which has been kept secret for long ages past, (Romans 16:25NASB)

But it is NOT still a mystery and we can understand it through our relationship with Jesus Christ.

In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace which He lavished on us. In all wisdom and insight He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him.
(Ephesians 1:7-9 NASB)

  • But woe to earth and sea! The devil has descended to you in fierce anger, knowing that his time is short.”

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We understand that Satan was thrown to earth by God, but what we don’t see is the anger. Lacking scripture, all we have is an assumption, and that does not work. But we do have well-defined reasoning for Satan’s anger and scripture gives it to us.

One of those answers comes from the passage itself and Revelation 12:12 tells us that his time is limited. In trying to understand this lack of time, I am well aware that just since Christ’s resurrection Satan has had over two thousand years. I suppose in contrast to eternity 2000 years is just a drop in the bucket.

When the dragon realized that he had been thrown down to the earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child. (Revelation 12:13 NLT)

  • When the dragon realized that he had been thrown down to the earth,”

Assuming that God lives among the stars, and God threw Satan to earth; that is a long, fast fall.

How do you not realize that you have been thrown to earth and that the party is over?

Maybe, it is not that far, or Satan is just that dense. Notice how the passage indicates that once he realized he was thrown down, where God’s plan, the mystery, would take place, he/Satan immediately began pursuing the woman who had given birth to the male child.

  • he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child.”

Does this include Eve?

I ask because Satan immediately takes out both Cain and Able. Every possibility since has been attacked, including Jesus.

The woman is Israel giving birth to the nation. Israel was a nation before it ever became a nation in 1948. So, Satan has been going after God’s people, trying to kill them, since the beginning of time; yes.

But she was given two wings like those of a great eagle so she could fly to the place prepared for her in the wilderness. There she would be cared for and protected from the dragon for a time, times, and half a time. (Revelation 12:14 NLT)

This idea of God carrying His people on His wings was not new.

You have seen what I did to the Egyptians. You know how I carried you on eagles’ wings and brought you to myself(Exodus 19:4 NLT)

Revelation 12:14 tells us,

  • “ But she was given two wings like those of a great eagle so she could fly to the place prepared for her in the wilderness.”

Dr. J. Vernon McGee states, “Into the wilderness, into her place.” Scripture does not say that the rock-hewn city of Petra will be that place. It could be, but we just simply do not know. This “wilderness” has been variously identified—Petra is not the only place. Some say that it is the wilderness of the peoples of the world; that is, that there will be another worldwide scattering of Israel. Since Christ said, “… flee into the mountains” (Mat_24:16), we believe it to be a literal wilderness, possibly that same one in which Israel spent forty years under Moses.”

A friend asked me about how I do Bible study. I have talked in the past about my disdain for commentaries, and one by Warren Wiersbe, who is renowned for his knowledge and wisdom. In my case, the group leader chose to use the Wiersbe commentary on Romans instead of focusing on the Bible. My feeling. and I get this to some degree from Pastor Tom Hughes of 411 church in San Jacinto, is that I no longer wish to lean upon commentaries. If I can’t figure it out from scripture, then I can resort to commentaries that I feel I can trust.

As you can see above, even Dr. McGee, attempted to direct our thinking to Israel running back into the world.

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I have a problem with that idea for this reason.

then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains. “Whoever is on the housetop must not go down to get the things out that are in his house. “Whoever is in the field must not turn back to get his cloak. “But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! “But pray that your flight will not be in the winter, or on a Sabbath.”
(Matthew 24:16-20 NASB)

When Jesus said these words, He said them to a Jewish audience that would never see this particular event, and the circumstances of what appears to be a catastrophic attack, are centered on Jerusalem. This doesn’t seem like a global event that would drive them back into the nations as we have for several years see a push (Aliyah) to come back to Israel and the Jews know that. The fact that He spoke specifically about Judea should be a tremendous clue.

The prophet Zechariah established the fact that Israel would be the focus of the attack.

“Behold, I am going to make Jerusalem a cup that causes reeling to all the peoples around; and when the siege is against Jerusalem, it will also be against Judah. “It will come about in that day that I will make Jerusalem a heavy stone for all the peoples; all who lift it will be severely injured. And all the nations of the earth will be gathered against it.” (Zechariah 12:2-3 NASB)

Just to say the focus is on Jerusalem is not enough. There was a time when “Israel” was a divided kingdom. Israel was the northern kingdom and Judea was the southern kingdom. Obviously, they are one nation, Israel, at this point. So the terminology is meant to promote the idea that the entirety of Israel will be under siege, and soon.

How many people in Israel escape?

One third of you will die by plague or be consumed by famine among you, one third will fall by the sword around you, and one third I will scatter to every wind, and I will unsheathe a sword behind them.” Ezekiel 5:12 NASB

Do the math. Only one-third survives and they do so by fleeing into the mountains.

If you were to say, but there a Jews everywhere and not all them come back to Israel, you would be correct; and this is where our presumptive statements, such as the Jews will flee to Petra, in Lebanon, get us into trouble. I realize that these assumptions have been made because 1.) it appeared to be the most logical place considering that scripture speaks of the dragon pouring out a flood, that God diverts, and Petra makes the most sense to some. But have you ever seen pictures of that place? Yes, it is amazing but it is not as expansive as people make it sound, and there is no plumbing if you catch my drift. And 2.) As of 2019, there were a little over 9 million people living in Israel. And you are expecting me to believe that 3 million people will jam themselves into that water-carved canyon for three and one-half years? Obviously and miraculously, some of God’s people will be saved, but it is NOT clear where.

Ezekiel chapter seven defines where and how these deaths will come.

‘The sword is outside and the plague and the famine are within. He who is in the field will die by the sword; famine and the plague will also consume those in the city.” (Ezekiel 7:15 NASB)

I want you to pay attention to the word plague. Covid falls under this category.

Considering that the Jews are a target of God’s wrath during the “tribulation years,” doesn’t it seem feasible that many of them died directly related to what is coming? Let me point out that George Soros is a European Jew that hates God.

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Just in case you don’t know, or you have forgotten, here is a bit of what God will bring:

  • The antichrist arrives and brings death with him. Revelation 6:2.

  • And another, a red horse. To take peace from the earth, and that men would slay one another; Revelation 6:4.

  • Behold an ashen horse. Authority was given to them to kill a fourth of the earth, Revelation 6:8.

  • With the sixth seal there was another deadly earthquake. Revelation 6:12.

We are still looking at Revelation 12:14.

  • “ But she was given two wings like those of a great eagle so she could fly to the place prepared for her in the wilderness.”

Wings is the Greek word pterux and surprise, it means wings, as in bird wings.

Is there a practical way to understand this?

Some would yes, as their idea gives Israel the ability to jump on an airplane and fly someone where else.

Really, do you actually think that is going to happen, especially in this newly improved Covid world we live in where Israel itself has gone back on full lockdown?

No, there will be no escape from Israel, outside of God’s plan; that only leaves one other possibility, and that is that Jews, globally, will have to run in any safe direction they can find.

Why make an analogy to an eagle’s wings?

Because this is the language that God has used with Israel on previous occasions.

“You yourselves have seen what I did to the Egyptians, and how I bore you on eagles’ wings and brought you to Myself.” Exodus 19:4.

Having read about Israel’s escape from Egypt, on several occasions, I can remember no references to eagles’ wings, this leads me to believe that God used the phrase “I bore you on eagles’ wings” as an analogy to the magnificence of His actions.

Another reference to eagle wings is found in Deuteronomy.

Like an eagle teaching its young to fly, catching them safely on its spreading wings, the LORD kept Israel from falling.” Deuteronomy 32:11 GNB

So, when Israel has to run for their lives, God is letting us and them know that He will carry them safely. 

If the eagle’s wings are synonymous with the catching away of the church, will you get caught up to meet Him in the air? Those that are not caught up will have to prove their allegiance to Jesus Christ, almost without exception, through their death as a martyr.

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They did not love their life even when faced with death. Revelation 12:11.

Previously, we saw Satan cast out of heaven and thrown to the earth.

And the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satanwho deceives the whole world; he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.
(Revelation 12:9 NASB)

Almost as though it is a response to Satan being thrown down, a declaration is made.

Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, “Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night. (Revelation 12:10 NASB)

The logical assumption would be that this declaration is made to and about Jesus Christ. We worked through the scriptures to assign some timing to such an event and it seems that His death and resurrection is a turning point, where God announces Christ’s Son-ship once again. Certainly, Jesus Christ was pronounced to be the Son in power, and, as we saw, He sat down to reign at that point.

“but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, SAT DOWN AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD,”
(Hebrews 10:12 NASB)

But our assumption about all the power going to Jesus may be incorrect.

Watch what happens next.

And they overcame him because of the blood of the Lamb and because of the word of their testimony, and they did not love their life even when faced with death. (Revelation 12:11 NASB)

Suddenly we are redirected to what appears to be the martyred saints; if that is the case, wouldn’t this pertain to ALL saints, throughout all time?

Why ask such a question?

Because Revelation 12:11 says “they” and not a specific audience. If you have been reading through the Revelation with us, then you would know that John saw the martyred saints on two occasions, and both times there are referred to as saints.

Do we have other references to saints that are non-revelation-oriented?

Paul had numerous associating the body of Christ to saints. Romans 1:7; Romans 15:26; 1 Cor 1:2; 1 Cor 6:1; 1 Cor 14:33; Eph 1:1; and in Eph 3:8 where he said, “To me, the very least of all saints.” Since we are focused on the Revelation, it seems necessary to point out that references to saints, in John’s writing, are all referring to people who endure the time of wrath or died because of the word of their testimony.

I point all this out because the word “they” opens the door to others outside of the time of wrath. People have been martyred for their relationship to Jehovah since time began; and, if you don’t believe that look at Cain and Able.

Let’s ask the question before someone else does; does everyone that goes through the tribulation and hold the testimony of Jesus Christ, die?

There is, in my mind, no doubt that some will survive.

Isaiah 1:9 Unless the LORD of hosts Had left us a few survivors, We would be like Sodom, We would be like Gomorrah.

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This idea of survivors is important because it alerted the Jewish disciples that the potential of being completely wiped out was a possibility.

“Unless those days had been cut short, no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect, those days will be cut short(Matthew 24:2NASB)

Isaiah 4:2 In that day the Branch of the LORD will be beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the earth will be the pride and the adornment of the survivors of Israel.

Pay attention to the fact that there are not only survivors among the Jewish people, but among the nations as well. I point this out because there are teachers which say, no one but believers go into the millennial kingdom. Such ignorance is dismaying.

“For I know their works and their thoughts; the time is coming to gather all nations and tongues. And they shall come and see My glory. “I will set a sign among them and will send survivors from them to the nations: Tarshish, Put, Lud, Meshech, Tubal, and Javan, to the distant coastlands that have neither heard My fame nor seen My glory. And they will declare My glory among the nations. (Isaiah 66:18-19 NASB)

If Revelation 12:11 is NOT referring to specifically to tribulation saints, then the alternative would be those, who throughout all record-able time, have stood declaring that there is salvation in Jehovah.

What proof do we have of that?

Hebrews is a great start, for here we see that faith brought approval from God.

Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. For by it the men of old gained approval. (Hebrews 11:1-2 NASB)

Their numbers, we are told, was as the sands of the seashore, and yet.

All these died in faith, without receiving the promises, but having seen them and having welcomed them from a distance, and having confessed that they were strangers and exiles on the earth.
(Hebrews 11:13 NASB)

Although it is hard to understand how they knew it, they were looking forward to the same hope we have, a life with the Father in a world filled with peace. I would like to tell you that their lives here on earth all had happy endings, but they did not.

In speaking of Moses we learn that he chose to endure ill-treatment along with his people.

choosing rather to endure ill-treatment with the people of God than to enjoy the passing pleasures of sin, (Hebrews 11:25 NASB)

Some conquered kingdoms, shut the mouths of lions, quenched fire, put foreign armies to flight, while others were tortured, not accepting their release.

who by faith conquered kingdoms, performed acts of righteousness, obtained promises, shut the mouths of lions, quenched the power of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, from weakness were made strong, became mighty in war, put foreign armies to flight. Women received back their dead by resurrection; and others were tortured, not accepting their release, so that they might obtain a better resurrection;”
(Hebrews 11:33-35 NASB)

No, it does not always work out the way we had hoped while we are here on earth. Ah, but then there is Jesus, and all of His promises are true.

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And they overcame him because of the blood of the Lamb and because of the word of their testimony, and they did not love their life even when faced with death.”
Revelation 12:11 NASB)

We have already addressed who this is most likely talking about, so we won’t go into that any further; and, we also touched on this idea of a testimony, but I want to dive into what a testimony looks like.

Religion tries to tell you that salvation and hence your testimony have to go through the “Roman Road.” That means that you would have been led down a scriptural path for the purpose of bringing you to salvation based primarily upon Paul’s letter to the church in Rome. This is a generalization of course, but the process and thinking is deeply inset.

Since I started this study, we have witnessed the fall of Afghanistan to the Taliban; and despite anything that our puppet president may have said, these people have declared that they will control Afghanistan under Sharia law. Depending upon how much free time they have, they torture people of any other sect of Islam or Christians, and frequently behead them. I have heard that the Taliban has been checking phones and shooting those who have Bible apps on their phones. There may be moments during this time of God’s wrath that is coming, in which you may not have the opportunity to say much before they kill you. If comes to the point where they are shouting at you, deny Christ and Worship Allah, you may only have a few seconds to shout out a NO!

The Greek word for testimony is marturia and it means evidence given judicially or generally.

Apply this word testimony to the person sitting next to the judge, trying to explain themselves against words spoken about them. If that was not dramatic enough, apply it to the people who are dragged out of their houses at gunpoint and told to worship Allah or we rape your wife in front of you. There is very little about this scenario that is clean or well organized. They don’t care about your Roman road speech, because as soon as you say no they are going to get busy, which will include shooting you.

Try to picture this.

The seven years of God’s wrath has come; almost immediately there will be a staggering increase in violence and death, all this comes with the arrival of the antichrist. The antichrist is the rider on the white horse.

I looked, and behold, a white horse, and he who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer. When He broke the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, “Come.” And another, a red horse, went out; and to him who sat on it, it was granted to take peace from the earth, and that men would slay one another; and a great sword was given to him.”
(Revelation 6:2-4 NASB)

We cannot tell from scriptures how much time after the rapture of the church until there is a wholesale killing of Christ-followers. Funny that I should say it that way, seeing as the church has been caught away.

Why during this time of chaos, when allegedly there is no Christ followers to lead you, would you have anyone following after Christ?

Scripture tells us that the veil that covers people’s eyes will be lifted and all will be able to see the truth – this does not mean that all will respond to the truth, but those who choose to follow after Christ during this time of horror will not cease to shut their mouths about the Lord.

If you have read your bible then you know the parable of the ten virgins (Matthew 25.) We can assume that the virgins have lived in a manner that made them welcome at the banquet. (You might equate them to believers.) Five of them filled their lamps with oil and took extra oil, just in case. The others did not check the oil level in the lamps, nor did they bring extra and when it got dark their lamps went out quickly. When those unprepared virgins ran out of oil we see them rudely demanding that the others give to them their oil. That did not happen, and they now had to go out into the neighborhood, knocking on doors, as they hunted for more. When they returned it was too late. The announcement was made, the bridegroom had come, and those who were prepared followed him to the chamber, entered, and the bridegroom closed the door too late entries.

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Jesus is coming back for those who are looking for Him.

Galatians 5:5 NASB For we through the Spirit, by faith, are waiting for the hope of righteousness.

Assuming that these unprepared virgins were Christ-followers something is missing from the equation, like a good explanation for what the oil represents. I have wondered why faced with the absurdity of going through a dark neighborhood late at night, they did not just follow those who still had light.

The Apostle Paul, in writing to the church at Corinth that we were to be awaiting the coming Jesus Christ for His church.

1 Corinthians 1:7 NASB so that you are not lacking in any gift, awaiting eagerly the revelation of our Lord Jesus Christ,

Everything was impacted by Adam’s actions and Paul reveals this in his letter to the church in Rome.

Romans 8:19 NASB For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God.

James, the half-brother of Jesus tells us to be patient as we wait.

James 5:7-8 NASB Therefore be patient, brethren, until the coming of the Lord. The farmer waits for the precious produce of the soil, being patient about it until it gets the early and late rains. (8) You too be patient; strengthen your hearts, for the coming of the Lord, is near.

One last aspect of Romans 12:11.

  • they did not love their life even when faced with death.”

    Having been thrown into the fiery furnace, that took the lives of the guards that threw them in, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego now walked back out of that same furnace. The Complete Jewish Bible tells us this.

    Daniel 3:28b. CJB …They defied the royal order to the point of being willing to give up their bodies, in order not to serve or worship any god but their own God.

    The book of Hebrews, in talking about the fathers of faith, says this.

    “All these died in faith, without receiving the promises, but having seen them and having welcomed them from a distance, and having confessed that they were strangers and exiles on the earth. (14) For those who say such things make it clear that they are seeking a country of their own.”
    Hebrews 11:13-14 NASB

    Everything within these two verses above cry out with wisdom and understanding.

    • All these died in faith,

    • without receiving the promises,”

    • They welcomed those same promises that we have, knowing that someday they will be a reality. Since they had no multi-translation bibles to help them understand, how did they know of these promises?

    • Confessed, and testified, that they were strangers and exiles on the earth. Why?

    • Because it was clear to them that they were seeking a country or “home” of their own.

      What does that mean to us?

      It means that we are just passing through as we head for our promised land, heaven. I despise the emphasis we make on having mansions in heaven. You know full well that many picture servants and house keepers polishing the fine things that make them feel important here on this broken earth. I have struggled with insecurities my entire life. Do you think I need to hide in some big palace, nursing those same anxiety-driven emotions? I long to be free.

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Keep this in mind as you ponder what this country promised us. God has told us that heaven is beyond our wildest imaginations. Having seen movies like Avatar, where the plants spin, emit music, and light up as you touch them, I could go on, but you should be getting the idea. My mind is reaching out there as I think about colorful nebula’s in ever-expanding galaxies, and I am NOT spending eternity sitting in a hot tub, although right now, with this body, that might feel really good.

Hebrews 11:16. NASB But as it is, they desire a better country, that is, a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God; for He has prepared a city for them.

Some, it tells us, did NOT receive the promises.

What do we believe God has promised us?

In reality it is life with the Father in Heaven, to define that if I could, would require another six-page diatribe and we are not going to do that, aside from life with the Father in Heaven, it is your daily bread – sustenance. To prove my point Jesus asked

The Faith movement tries to tell you, you deserve a Rolls Royce. Dr. Fred Price got his, and then he died. I wonder who has it now. With the Father, your things won’t matter.

One last comment and I call it quits.

Pastor Jack Hibbs of Calvary Chapel Chino Hills, addressed the crowd recently, when he asked, how many of you long for normal to return?

You could hear a number of people say yes, I shouted out NO! The reason I said no is that I no longer wish to play, and I want Jesus to return for His bride, the church.

Pastor Jack said, if you answered yes, then perhaps your heart is still far too attached to the things of this earth, and all of them are in opposition to God’s plan and purposes.

If I was willing to simply go back to normal, in my mind, I feel as though I would be saying that I am comfortable with this lousy world, the bullies, and the poison the world has to offer. There is no peace here on earth, in fact, the level of violence is already on the increase. No, I am done here.

Do I sound like I am defeated?

First off, you need to know that I don’t care what you think. I am getting older and the things I used to laugh at, like arthritis are now my constant companions. The problem with arthritis is that it has tempered that warrior spirit in me. In other words, I am not so willing to swing the broad ax anymore, and that is a good thing but I am finally learning that I am not in control.

I am not asking for prayer, although prayer is always welcome, but it is a change of focus. My heart yearns for the return of Jesus and I long to hear His voice constantly. Remember what we saw in Hebrews how faith should be the center of focus.

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Revelation 12 verses 7 through 10. Satan thrown down to earth.

As I discussed in the previous post, covering Revelation 12 verses 1 through 7, Satan was thrown to earth and dragged one-third of the angels with him. Somewhere in that scene Satan sets himself in front of the woman about to give birth with the full intent of killing the male child that was to be born. We learned that the male child was the nation Israel.

For no extra charge I will throw this in. In Genesis 3 we see this.

Genesis 3:15 NLT And I will cause hostility between you and the woman, and between your offspring and her offspring. He will strike your head, and you will strike his heel.”

Many translations use the word seed instead of offspring. We tend to make the assumption that the offspring or seed are the relatives/extended family, but what if it is the mystery of God being played out in what would eventually the salvation of the world through Jesus Christ?

Although, Christ was born long before Israel became a nation, every descendant of Adam and Eve became targets; this is evidenced almost immediately by Satan taking out both Cain and righteous Abel. So, when we read Revelation 12, we are having history played out before us through word pictures, even though much of this history is only minutes away as we read this.

One of biggest struggles we “Christians” have is not understanding that Satan, though stripped of everything except his ability to deceive, IS STILL free to roam, not only that, but one-third of an uncountable number of angels, seems to allow him the illusion of being omnipresent, just as God is. We will soon see that Satan’s days are numbered.

This next section is entitled:

Satan Thrown Down to Earth

Revelation 12:7-9 NASB And there was war in heaven, Michael and his angels waging war with the dragon. The dragon and his angels waged war, (8) and they were not strong enough, and there was no longer a place found for them in heaven. (9) And the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.

I used to be involved in the faith movement and I listened intently, for a time, to Kenneth Copeland. One day, Kenneth, in describing Jesus’ comment about Satan falling like lightning, talked as if God threw him like a dart to earth. We actually have scripture that defends that possibility.

Revelation 9:1 TLV Then the fifth angel trumpeted, and I saw a star that had fallen from heaven to earth. The key to the bottomless pit was given to him.

Some, in an attempt to take the bible literally, will say this was a physical star that struck the earth. The probability of that taking place, merely because of the global devastation that would have taken place, eliminates an actual star strike.

Now, what if God actually threw Satan to earth like a dart? Could the impact of a fallen angel create an impact crater, much like we see in the Yucatan Peninsula?


When did the events of Revelation 12:7-9 take place?

While the Word of God does not give us an explicit answer, there is evidence that demands a verdict. Isaiah tells us this.

Isaiah 45:18 NLT For the LORD is God, and he created the heavens and earth and put everything in place. He made the world to be lived in, not to be a place of empty chaos. “I am the LORD,” he says, “and there is no other.

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While the NLT is very readable the depth of what happened here gets lost in its choice of words. The NASB gives me words with their Strong’s numbers. Let me show you.

wasteH8414 placeH8414, but formedH3335 it to be R4inhabitedH3427

The phrase “to be lived in, not to be a place of empty chaos” is lacking. “To be lived in” leaves the door open to varying forms of creation, one of which speaks of a perpetual creation that could eventually be lived in. While that is possible, it is not the focus to the study, and that is a restoration of power to Jesus Christ.

A different translation can demonstrate what I am saying.

Isaiah 45:18 NASB For thus says the LORD, who created the heavens (He is the God who formed the earth and made it, He established it and did not create it a waste place, but formed it to be inhabited), “I am the LORD, and there is none else.

Created is the Hebrew word bara. It means to shape and create.

Formed is the Hebrew word yâtsar and conveys the idea of squeezing into shape.

Established is the Hebrew word kûn and indicates the action of setting in place, to prepare.

Waste place is the Hebrew word tôhû used twice. Using a word twice is used for emphasis. The word tôhû means a desolation (of surface), figuratively a worthless thing, emptiness, chaos, confusion and formless. (The idea of waste comes across more like college students trashing an Air B&B rental. To say the earth was a desolation gives the impression that is was utterly destroyed, and became a worthless thing.)

Inhabited is the Hebrew word yâshab and means to sit down specifically as judge; by implication to dwell, and to remain quietly. (This speaks to the position that Adam held and the environment in which he was to live.)

If, as you can see above, that the earth suffered some form of violence that changed it, what happened?
Obviously, something other than God’s intent happened because, as you see in verses 10-12, the earth was originally good.

Genesis 1:10-12 NASB God called the dry land earth, and the gathering of the waters He called seas; and God saw that it was good. (11) Then God said, “Let the earth sprout vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees on the earth bearing fruit after their kind with seed in them”; and it was so. (12) The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit with seed in them, after their kind; and God saw that it was good.

I contend that there is a gap between verses one and two, and that this is where Satan was thrown to earth; and that God, then had to make it good once again.

Genesis 1:1-2 NASB In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. (2) The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters.

The words formless and void is tôhû and bôhû.

tôhû means to lie waste; a desolation (of surface), that is, desert; figuratively a worthless thing; adverbially in vain

bôhû meaning to be empty); a vacuity, that is, (superficially) an undistinguishable ruin.

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Moving on with the study.

Revelation 12:10 NASB Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, “Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.

If this distribution of power and authority happened before Adam’s entrance into the earth, then why have we been dealing with Satan’s accusations unnecessarily?

I ask the question above, because if Adam had this same authority and power (Jesus, in 1 Cor 15:45 is referred to as the last Adam, and in Romans 5:14 Adam is called a type of him who was to come,) why would he stand silent and allow Satan to grab control of the earth?

I have on several occasions talked about how and why Satan had a course of action to deceive Eve. To understand this you have to establish it in your mind who was the first human placed here on earth. The answer is Adam. The instructions about “the tree” were only spoken to Adam, NOT Eve merely because she was not physically created as yet. So, how did Eve come to understand the only restriction (law) that the two of them were subject to? Adam had to tell her. Do you think Adam merely cut some instructional corners, and said, because I said so! No, he told her word for word what God said. Now, fast forward to Satan saying, “did God really say that?” In this conversation Satan challenged not only Adam’s but God’s character, authority, wisdom, judgment, and governance. If you can understand this, then you can understand that Adam had been placed as the magistrate of this earth and that it was his responsibility to deal with what was happening, there before his eyes. We are told, that Eve was deceived but Adam was not; he merely stood there motionless.

So there are two things going on here, much of which is not so obvious; power and authority over the earth had somehow been stripped away, and, because of the actions of Jesus (this would include the fact that He was sinless, His willingness to obey the Father’s will, and all that death on the cross entailed,) all would be restored.

If I take the placement of Revelation 12:10’s statement in a chronological order, then it becomes clear that God has poured out His wrath and it is time to end this lawlessness on earth.

What exactly does Revelation 12:10 say?

Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come,”

  • Now the salvation,”Salvation is the Greek word sōtēria and means rescue or safety (physically or morally): – deliver, health, salvation, save, saving, and preservation.When most read the Revelation we see a point at which the death and fire bombing – all of which falls under the category of God’s wrath, comes to a dramatic end; peace finally comes, and, whether you like it or not, Christ reigns supreme.
  • One of the first instances of Jesus saying something like this comes from Matthew 28; here Mary Magdalene and the other Mary had come to the tomb. Finding it open and Jesus gone, an angel appeared and explained that Jesus was not here, and that they should go quickly and tell the disciples. In Matthew 28 we are NOT told where Jesus met them, but He did, and this is when He said, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.”
  • Now is the Greek word arti and means just now, this hour or day. (So there is a relative immediacy, but it’s associated with a context .) Italics mine.

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That word sōtēria, from which we get rescue and preservation, although comparable to salvation, can mean a multitude of things depending upon your circumstances – one of which is health.

Is rescue and preservation what Jesus had in mind when He spoke these words in Mat 28:18b, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth” ?

In Matthew 28, Jesus speaks about authority.

The Greek word for authority is exousia. a word that means power, ability, privilege, capacity, freedom, mastery. Those defining words convey the idea of salvation, which we saw when we looked at sōtēria. Jesus had, not only the power, but the power was NOW in them who followed Him through their union with Him.

Does this apply to us? Without a doubt.

  • and the power”
  • and the kingdom of our God”
  • and the authority of His Christ have come”
  • Authority here is ginomai and means to come into existence; to be created, exist by creation, to be born, produced, grow.
  • Kingdom is the Greek word basileia, it means royalty, that is, (abstractly) rule, or (concretely) a realm (literally or figuratively): – kingdom, + reign.
  • Power is the Greek word dunamis. Dunamis is a word connected to the baptism of the Holy Spirit. The word carries the meanings of force (literally or figuratively); specifically miraculous power (usually by implication a miracle itself): – ability, abundance, meaning, might.

What changed that Christ would suddenly have power again?

The ability to understand what changed lies in the context. If I start my context search at Revelation 12:1 I see a synopsis of Satan’s fall to earth. This fall does not mean a full lockup but an expulsion. The final judgment, where Satan comes to an end, only comes at the time that encompasses the great white throne; all the while, the previous thousand years, Satan had been locked up and unable to deceive the population. It should be obvious that Jesus has reigned in unquestioned power during the thousand years, and it certainly does not end there.

At this point in time the earth has experienced the trumpet judgments, but not the bowl judgments.

Revelation 11:15 NASB Then the seventh angel sounded; and there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ; and He will reign forever and ever.”

And yet, only two verses later we have this assertion.

Revelation 11:17 NASB saying, “We give You thanks, O Lord God, the Almighty, who are and who were, because You have taken Your great power and have begun to reign.

Chronologically, it makes no sense that there would be such a huge transition from He will to You have taken, unless there has been a monumental changed; that change came through the cross.

Colossians 2:13-14 NASB (13) When you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions, (14) having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

Colossians 2:13-14 tells us that

  • He made us alive with Him.

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  • He has forgiven all our transgressions.
  • He canceled the debts again us.
  • And He took those debts out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

The Father, once again, called Him Son.

Romans 1:4 NASB who was declared the Son of God with power by the resurrection from the dead, according to the Spirit of holiness, Jesus Christ our Lord,

This originates in the Psalms.

Psalms 2:6-8 NASB “But as for Me, I have installed My King Upon Zion, My holy mountain.” (7) “I will surely tell of the decree of the LORD: He said to Me, ‘You are My Son, Today I have begotten You. (8) ‘Ask of Me, and I will surely give the nations as Your inheritance, And the very ends of the earth as Your possession.

Psalm 89 tells us that God shall make Him My firstborn and the highest of the kings of the earth.

Psalms 89:27 NASB “I also shall make him My firstborn, The highest of the kings of the earth.

If God had already made Him His firstborn, then why this?

Philippians 2:6-9 NASB “who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, (7) but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. (8) Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. (9) For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name,”

Jesus, for the joy set before him, stripped Himself of equality with the Father; all that was restored because of His death and resurrection.

Hebrews 5:5 NASB So also Christ did not glorify Himself so as to become a high priest, but He who said to Him, “YOU ARE MY SON, TODAY I HAVE BEGOTTEN YOU”;

So, once again, Christ has become the begotten son.

When Jesus spoke those words that we saw in Matthew 28, He was already risen from the dead, having accomplished every aspect of our salvation, including pouring out His blood on the tabernacle in heaven.

Hebrews 9:21 NASB And in the same way he sprinkled both the tabernacle and all the vessels of the ministry with the blood (His blood.) Italics mine.

We are told that at His ascension into the heavens, He sat down next to the Father while He waits for His enemies to become His footstool.

Hebrews 10:12-13 NASB but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, SAT DOWN AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD, (13) waiting from that time onward UNTIL HIS ENEMIES BE MADE A FOOTSTOOL FOR HIS FEET.

By understanding the Revelation we see those enemies become His footstool. The power has been His for a long time, He just needed the right set of circumstances to bring closure, put away the deceivers, and reward those who follow Him.

He could not force our salvation, even though He paid for it, as it is entirely upon our shoulders to accept our salvation. We have to voluntarily give our lives to Jesus, the one who bore our sins.

Ask yourself a question.

Beyond the thousand years, when there are NO more people merely living for themselves, why would Jesus have to reign over the followers of Christ?

He wouldn’t, and the reason is that all those on the earth, from the great white throne forward would be dedicated to God and living by a moral standard – God’s, by choice – not the choices an enslaved person is limited to, but one where we are invested in Him through that same blood.

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Revelation 12: 1-6. A great sign appeared in heaven.

My Bible entitles Revelation 12 “The Woman and the Dragon.”

If I am trying to discern what is being said, and I am, then my first thoughts jump out of the Revelation to Genesis three, because that is where this battle began. Just a heads up, we will get there.

Revelation 12:1-2 NASB A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; (2) and she was with child; and she *cried out, being in labor and in pain to give birth.

  • A great sign appeared in heaven.

    Great is the Greek word mégas and means something in the sky that was particularly large. What are the possibilities?

    Astronomical alignments of stars could be an answer and we just recently had one where the SunSeptember 23_2017 aligned itself in Virgo to recreate what Revelation 12 describes. I borrowed the picture from someone attempting to promote a particular date of Jesus’ return. While I am sure that he is coming soon, this brother in Christ missed it. Another would have been the sign that the shepherds followed to find the baby Jesus, and then there was the alignment of stars that led the Magi to the child Jesus when he was about two years old.

    So, as you can see, we, without too much trouble, can easily come up with at least three signs.

    There is nothing to say that this alignment of stars did not also take place several thousand years ago for the benefit of Adam, and then others.

  • a woman … and she was with child; and she *cried out, being in labor and in pain to give birth.”

    Was this Mary? Nobut it is interesting. We are not given a time period for this escape to Egypt and I think this is one of the biggest issues, but there are others.

    There is no doubt in my mind that this sign is speaking of Israel and the birth of the nation itself.

    A portion of Dr. J. Vernon McGee’s commentary states “Travailing in birth” is a figure associated with Israel: “Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child. Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children” (Isa_66:7-8)Israel will go through the Great Tribulation after Christ was born in Bethlehem—”before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child,” meaning Christ. Therefore, we identify the woman as the nation Israel. No one woman who has ever lived, including the virgin Mary fits into this. It is the nation Israel and certainly not the church of all ages”

    Note how the reference above says, before she travailed she brought forth. You have to know that the process of birthing a nation came with pain and discomfort. Many, not being careful about their reading, have stated that the travail had everything to do with the birthing of the nation; and yet, the travail, which will be greater, is yet to come.

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In Matthew 24:3b we see the disciples asking Jesus, “Tell us, when shall these things be? And what shall be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the world?” Jesus had told them the temple would be destroyed. Considering the size of the stones that seemed impossible; so the question is in two parts. The second part, the part that is now so vitally important to the believers is, what will be the sign of your coming (as the warring Messiah,) and (when) will the end of the world come?

I find that even when I write, people will contend with me; they will try to dispute things like, the church will not be raptured before God’s wrath comes, while others do not believe that God will pour out His wrath at all. Because of these arrogant attitudes, I feel it is necessary to give evidence in the form of scripture. Scripture, however, is the thing that tends to make these appear longer and unreadable. So, in order to not lose you, I highlight portions of the longer passages so that you can go straight to the point. For those who appreciate context, you get it all. Perhaps it would help you to know that I have struggled with learning disabilities my entire life, and it is because of this that I write in the style that I do. I can track well with the style I use and it allows me to move quickly through the study while retaining information.

Revelation 12:3-4 MKJV And another sign was seen in the heavens. And behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his heads! (4) And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and cast them onto the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman being about to bear so that when she bears he might devour her child.

  • And another sign was seen in the heavens. And behold a great red dragon,”

    Is there a sign of a dragon among the stars? Yes.

    From Wikipedia we get this, “Draco is a constellation in the far northern sky. Its name is Latin for dragon. It was one of the 48 constellations listed by the 2nd century astronomer Ptolemy, and remains one of the 88 modern constellations today. The north pole of the ecliptic is in Draco.

    There is nothing about the constellation which makes you think about the color red, so the color is merely an eye-catching descriptive; and, if you think about it, it worked because the majority of movies and television portrayals of Satan as the dragon are red and fearsome. The reality, which the entire world will someday see, is that Satan was beautiful, and probably not made for warfare as a majority of the angels are.

    My Dake’s bible states that Satan is referenced as the dragon 13 times. Every one of those occurs from Revelation 12 on. If you read my blogs on Revelation then you know that I have said that John wrote things that were meant to be understood. Why should the analogy of a dragon be any different?

    If we work off the assumption that John’s readers would have been primarily Jewish and would have memorized the Law and the prophets what would they relate this to?

    • King David spoke of trampling the dragon. Psalms 91:13

    • Isaiah prophesied using most of the symbolism that we see in Revelation. Isa 27:1

    • The prophet Jeremiah referred to a dragon swallowing him up. Jer 51:34

    • Ezekiel the prophet spoke of a dragon that lies in the rivers. Eze 29:3

      Rev 12:7-17, and Rev 13:2 give more detail about the dragon aspect.

  • having seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his heads!”

    We have to jump ahead to Revelation 13:1 to gain some understanding.

    Revelation 13:1 NLT Then I saw a beast rising up out of the sea. It had seven heads and ten horns, with ten crowns on its horns. And written on each head were names that blasphemed God.

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This is the fourth beast that Daniel saw.

Daniel 7:7 NLT Then in my vision that night, I saw a fourth beast—terrifying, dreadful, and very strong. It devoured and crushed its victims with huge iron teeth and trampled their remains beneath its feet. It was different from any of the other beasts and it had ten horns.

Out of these ten come the antichrist and the false prophet.

Daniel 7:8 NLT As I was looking at the horns, suddenly another small horn appeared among them. Three of the first horns were torn out by the roots to make room for it. This little horn had eyes like human eyes and a mouth that was boasting arrogantly.

Daniel 7:11 NLT I continued to watch because I could hear the little horn’s boastful speech. I kept watching until the fourth beast was killed and its body was destroyed by fire.

Daniel 7:20 NLT I also asked about the ten horns on the fourth beast’s head and the little horn that came up afterward and destroyed three of the other horns. This horn had seemed greater than the others, and it had human eyes and a mouth that was boasting arrogantly.

Daniel got his answer.

Then he (the angel that had been talking,) said to me, “This fourth beast is the fourth world power that will rule the earth. It will be different from all the others. It will devour the whole world, trampling and crushing everything in its path (this is the iron portion of this statue.) Its ten horns are ten kings who will rule that empire. Then another king will arise, different from the other ten, who will subdue three of them.

He (this other king that arises) will defy the Most High and oppress the holy people of the Most High. He will try to change their sacred festivals and laws, and they will be placed under his control for a time, times, and half a time (everything about this description speaks of Islam.) “But then the court will pass judgment, and all his power will be taken away and completely destroyed. Then the sovereignty, power, and greatness of all the kingdoms under heaven will be given to the holy people of the Most High. His kingdom will last forever, and all rulers will serve and obey him.” (Daniel 7:23-27 NLT) Italics are my mine.

Alright, let’s stop right here.

When Daniel saw Nebuchadnezzar’s statue in the vision, only three empires or world powers were defined.

World power” is a relative term because John’s Jewish audience only concerned themselves with the Middle-Eastern world, as this is the location of God’s promised land to Abraham. It seems impossible for us Gentile believers to think this way because our news gives us global information, but the reality is that everything points back to Israel.

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Most attribute the fourth and final empire to a revived Roman empire. An obvious element is that the4Beast Comparative Chart Roman empire is NOT listed. What we do know is that after the death of Alexander four generals struggled for rulership. The two remaining rulers were the Ptolemaic empire in the South (Egypt and the northern African nations.) And the Seleucid empire in the North; and, I believe we see that in the legs of iron. Note that the iron continues into the feet with the ten toes mixed with clay. These ten toes correspond with Revelation 12:3.

Then I witnessed in heaven another significant event. I saw a large red dragon with seven heads and ten horns, with seven crowns on his heads. (NLT)

The ten toes also correspond with,

Daniel 7:7 NLT Then in my vision that night, I saw a fourth beast—terrifying, dreadful, and very strong. It devoured and crushed its victims with huge iron teeth and trampled their remains beneath its feet. It was different from any of the other beasts, and it had ten horns.

A fascinating piece of information arises when you look up the word mixed. It is the Hebrew word ‛ărab and means a commingling.

Who or what is being commingled?

First off the Seleucid empire commingled with the nations they conquered, just like the Jews did. This is evidenced in the statement about Antiochus, which you will see below; this is the same Antiochus that set up an abomination in the temple. Secondly, the Roman troops were commingled, for they took conscript troops from every nation they conquered. According to Josephus and Tacitus, it was the Assyrian troops, marching under the Roman flag, that destroyed the temple in 70a.d..

English Standard Version Maps ©2001 Crossway Bibles, a publishing ministry of Good News Publishers. All rights reserved. A commentary from the Crossway Bible, says, “By the second century b.c., the Seleucid Empire was losing its grip on much of its territory and the Roman Empire was rapidly expanding throughout the Mediterranean world. In an attempt to unite his empire and shore up his defenses against these pressures Antiochus IV Epiphanies imposed a strict policy of Hellenization over his domain, which now included the land of Israel.

  •  his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and cast them onto the earth,”

    Satan, the red dragon threw a third part of the stars down to the earth. Scripture tells us that the angels are all referred to as stars, if this was not the case, and a single star was thrown down and struck the earth, there would be no more earth. Isaiah 14 speaks specifically about Lucifer / Satan and how he was thrown from heaven.

    Isaiah 14:12 NASB “How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning, son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the earth, You who have weakened the nations!

    Pay attention to the phrase, O star of the morning.

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When the Spirit of God speaks to Job about the foundations of the earth, someone or something is being referred to when he says,

Job 38:6-7 NASB “On what were its bases sunk? Or who laid its cornerstone, (7) When the morning stars sang together And all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Perhaps that does not convince you, how about this declaration.

Job 1:6-7 NASB Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them. (7) The LORD said to Satan, “From where do you come?” Then Satan answered the LORD and said, “From roaming about on the earth and walking around on it.”

You really have to think about the logic of this situation, especially if God is saying it, and he is. Satan was either a son, or he is simply too brash for words. And, you do not see God wasting any critical words on him, therefore, Satan must have been among them at some point.

The terminology “ his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and cast them onto the earth,” is not only evidence that many followed him, but is one the prime pieces of evidence as to the number of angels that followed in his deceit. When we get to Daniel chapter 8 it certainly seems that the conversation is circling around the antichrist or the false prophet, and yet, it tells a similar story to what we have just seen in Revelation 12:4.

Daniel 8:10 NASB It grew up to the host of heaven and caused some of the host and some of the stars to fall to the earth, and it trampled them down.

  • And the dragon stood before the woman being about to bear, so that when she bears he might devour her child.”

    The dragon is Satan. Need proof?

    Revelation 20:1-3 NASB Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. (2) And he laid hold of the dragon, the serpent of old, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; (3) and he threw him into the abyss, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he would not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were completed; after these things, he must be released for a short time.

The woman is Israel, and we have already covered this. Since Israel became a nation every effort has been made to destroy that nation, and they have failed.

But what if was Mary?

Then what Herod did by killing all the male children in the region age two and under, as an act of murder motivated by the dragon, for the purpose of killing Jesus could be deemed as an attempt at devouring Mary’s child. Obviously, that failed. Satan tried once more and surely thought he had won when they put Jesus on that cross. His happy dance ended when Jesus rose from the grave, stripped the power of fear and death from Satan, and then ascended into heaven to be seated on the right hand of the Father.

To add to the confusion and the idea that this could be referring to Jesus, we have this,

Revelation 12:5 NASB And she gave birth to a son, a male child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron; and her child was caught up to God and to His throne.

In Genesis we are told that there will be a hatred between your seed and her seed (Genesis 3:15,) and we see certainly see that coming from Satan.

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  • “ who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron;”

    Once again, the general rule is that all scripture in the New Testament comes out of the Old Testament, and this is no different as this comes out of the Psalms.

    Psalms 2:7-9 NASB “I will surely tell of the decree of the LORD: He said to Me, ‘You are My Son, Today I have begotten You. (8) ‘Ask of Me, and I will surely give the nations as Your inheritance, And the very ends of the earth as Your possession. (9) ‘You shall break them with a rod of iron, You shall shatter them like earthenware.'”

    Pay attention to the context. Jesus gains this authority because He was, once again, declared to be God’s Son, most seem to understand that this was because of His obedience to the cross. Because of that, the Father has given Him the nations for an inheritance; and, as you can see, He judges them with a rod of iron.

    In the second chapter of the Revelation Jesus is talking to the church, almost as if He is pleading with them. He says this.

    Revelation 2:26-27 NASB (26) ‘He who overcomes, and he who keeps My deeds until the end, TO HIM I WILL GIVE AUTHORITY OVER THE NATIONS; (27) AND HE SHALL RULE THEM WITH A ROD OF IRON, AS THE VESSELS OF THE POTTER ARE BROKEN TO PIECES, as I also have received authority from My Father;

    This is what Jesus did; He overcame and He kept the law perfectly. The Jewish leadership might not think so, but His Father did, and that is what is important.

    Romans 5:19 NASB For as through the one man’s disobedience, the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the One the many will be made righteous.

    Hebrews 5:7 NIrV Jesus prayed while he lived on earth. He made his appeal with loud cries and tears. He prayed to the One who could save him from death. God heard him because he truly honored God.

    Hebrews 5:8 ERV Jesus was the Son of God, but he still suffered, and through his sufferings he learned to obey whatever God says.

    This theme then becomes a part of the message in Revelation 12.

  • And her child was taken up to God and to his throne.

    Acts 1:9 NASB And after He had said these things, He was lifted up while they were looking on, and a cloud received Him out of their sight.

    Not so many years later, as an act of reminding themselves, they made this confession of what they knew and believed.

    1 Timothy 3:16 NASB By common confession, great is the mystery of godliness: He who was revealed in the flesh, Was vindicated in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Proclaimed among the nations, Believed on in the world, Taken up in glory.

As though we had it all figured out, the subject shifts back to Israel.

Revelation 12:6 NASB Then the woman fled into the wilderness where she *had a place prepared by God, so that there she would be nourished for one thousand two hundred and sixty days.

Once again we are looking at the woman as Israel. Mary did not flee into the wilderness, if so, when did that happen. We know that Joseph, at the direction of an angel fled to Egypt.

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Even if we could point to Egypt, we have nothing to associate Mary with the time frame, one thousand two hundred and sixty days., which has everything to do with the second half of the time of wrath, and a future event.

Most point to Petra, in Lebanon, as the wilderness. How that red rock canyon, so well known, could hide the survivors of Israel is beyond me.

A question.

Are you hidden in Christ?

It’s simple really, for when you accept Christ as your salvation you become hidden in Him, and you are a part of His body, the body of Christ.

Christ is coming very soon to retrieve those who belong to Him. This speaks of the church and the rapture. After the rapture of the church those who have rejected Christ are not necessarily lost, but now have to endure the hell on earth that is part of God’s wrath. I recommend you avoid that as you will have to prove your allegiance with your life.

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Their power is in their mouth and tails. Revelation 11: 13-19.

At this point in chapter 11, Jesus returns to the WRATH, but remember, there will be no more delays; and yet, we have seen John measure the temple with an emphasis on leaving out the outer courtyard. I told you that this outer courtyard was the only place the women could go and it was the place where Jesus found all the vendors and money-changers and threw them out. It was also deemed the courtyard of the Gentiles, does that mean that when Israel gets attacked that the enemies will not try and get into the inner courtyards? I doubt it, but as I am writing this, it occurs to me that I was a Gentile once. Suddenly I am thankful that I could get close enough to receive His mercy and grace. So, maybe there is a brighter side to this outer courtyard.

And with that comment, we begin.

Revelation 11:14 NASB The second woe is past; behold, the third woe is coming quickly.

I have been doing this study on Revelation for several weeks now, with moderate breaks between sessions, and I will admit that? I have forgotten, at this point, what the other woes were. Let’s refresh my memory.

Revelation 8:13 shows us an angel with a loud voice saying, Woe, woe, woe, and he let us know that the remaining trumpet blasts will signal these coming woes. As far as woes go, Revelation 8:13 has to be what God considers the beginning.

If this is the beginning, what do we call everything that has happened from Revelation 6:1 up to this point?

In Revelation 9:1 the fifth angel sounds its trumpet. John tells us that he sees a star that had fallen to earth. If you recall, I mentioned that our sun is a star and a small one at that. Any star striking the earth should destroy it, so the practicality of an actual star falling to earth makes no sense, so there has to be another explanation, and there is. Isaiah 14 has quite the narrative about Satan’s demise, but the verse we want to pay attention to is verse 12.

Isaiah 14:12-13 NASB “How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning, son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the earth, You who have weakened the nations! (13) “But you said in your heart, ‘I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God, And I will sit on the mount of assembly In the recesses of the north.

God calls Satan the star of the morning and references the other angelic beings as the stars of God.

The entirety of Revelation 9:1 to 9:11 is the first woe.

Within that woe we got Satan thrown to the earth. You are wise readers so you know this occurrence probably happened before God put Adam on this earth. I say that because the serpent was there, in the garden, waiting to deceive Eve; and, if you were not paying attention you might think that this all happens within the seven years of God’s wrath. The other significant thing that happens is these locusts with scorpion-like tails. Because of their stings, humans long for death for five months but it does not come.

The second woe does not come to an end, (that is an odd way to look at it,) until Revelation 11:14.

Since Revelation 9:11 what has been going on?

With the blowing of the sixth trumpet, four angels, that were bound in the Euphrates River, is released.

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We are told that these four angels kill one-third of humanity on the earth, but what Revelation 9:16 does not tell you, is that these an0gry angels are apparently high ranking demonic angels that command a Calvary of 200 million demonic beings.

Revelation 9:17 YLT And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and those sitting upon them, having breastplates of fire, and jacinth, and brimstone; and the heads of the horses are as heads of lions, and out of their mouths proceeds fire, and smoke, and brimstone;

This is not an army of humans, these are demonic hordes, and the horses with lion heads, breathing out fire, smoke, and brimstone should be a strong clue. Now pay attention to how they kill.

Revelation 9:18-19 YLT by these three were the third of men killed, from the fire, and from the smoke, and from the brimstone, that is proceeding out of their mouth, for their authorities are in their mouth, and in their tails, for their tails are like serpents, having heads, and with them they do injure;

We are aware that two-thirds of humanity continues to live; that is an undefinable number, because, since the catching away of the church the killing of people has been going on with vigor.

Revelation 6:4 NASB And another, a red horse went out; and to him who sat on it, it was granted to take peace from the earth, and that men would slay one another; and a great sword was given to him.

Only a few sentences later we have this.

Revelation 6:8 NASB I looked, and behold, an ashen horse; and he who sat on it had the name Death; and Hades was following with him. Authority was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword and with famine and with pestilence and by the wild beasts of the earth.

One might assume that by the time that Revelation 9:18 comes along over one-fourth of the earth has been killed by various means. If there are three-fourths left, then what happens in Revelation 9:18 is the death of one-third of that number.

Chapter ten is more informational, as it informs that,

  • It, in the opening verse shows us, Jesus in His splendor.

  • He tells us that there will be no more delays.

  • That the mystery of God is finished.

  • And that John, through his voice and writings, is to continue to preach this message.

Chapter eleven opens with the Apostle John measuring the temple that is to come, but not the outer courtyard, as this is given to the Gentiles to trample, and for a precise time period, forty-two months.

With Revelation 11:3 one might say there is a return to violence, as the two witnesses from God stand their ground in Jerusalem and slay anyone who tries to stop them. Read this on your own. (Revelation 11:3-14.) The two witnesses then, become a part of the woes, as they bring plagues, death, and stop the rain.

The third woe is coming quickly.

Revelation 11:14 NASB The second woe is past; behold, the third woe is coming quickly.

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For God to be able to say, the second woe is past, that would have to mean that the damage the two witnesses do is significant and global, and it is.

This is the next thing we hear.

Revelation 11:15 NASB Then the seventh angel sounded; and there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ; and He will reign forever and ever.

There is nothing ominous about verse 15, in fact, my heart rejoices when I hear “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ; and He will reign forever and ever.” But it is obvious that something has to take place.

Keep in mind that the seventh announcement of these perilous events has always included the next thing to happen. Considering that we were told that there should be no more delays, that should mean there is only one thing left, the return of the warring Messiah, but no, those going through the time of wrath still have the bowl judgments to go.

The twenty-four elders are worshiping and saying, you have begun to reign.

Revelation 11:16-17 NASB (16) And the twenty-four elders, who sit on their thrones before God, fell on their faces and worshiped God, (17) saying, “We give You thanks, O Lord God, the Almighty, who are and who were, because You have taken Your great power and have begun to reign.

Again, you need to take a moment to think through what the spirit of the Lord just said.

  • We give You thanks, O Lord God, the Almighty, who are and who were,”

    Who are” is present tense, but while God does not change, was He something else at one point and another thing recently?

    Some would say yes, even though those speaking against God, fail to consider the cross and how that “recently” aspect has everything to do with the cross. On the cross, all debts were paid.

    Colossians 2:12-14 NASB (12) having been buried with Him in baptism, in which you were also raised up with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. (13) When you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions, (14) having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

    It has taken me years to grasp the enormity of that statement and I do not think I will fully understand it until I meet Him face to face and see the love in His eyes.

    So, ask yourself a question, have you ever perceived God as being gracious and merciful when you read about Him in the Old Testament?

    Well, surprise, He was because He had to operate under the law (a clue to understanding why God had to put Israel through this retraining process, when they came out of Egypt they were effectively Egyptians. One of the proofs of that came from Stephen as he stood before the council defending himself.

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He pointed out to them how “God’s” people brought the tent of Moloch out of Egypt, and, they brought their sex god Rephan along as well. No one disputed what Stephen said and they, under the direction of a man named Saul, stoned Him anyway,) there was little mercy could do to help you, you had to follow the commandments.

Many think that Christ did away with the law, however, Jesus answered that challenge when He said, I did NOT come to do away with the law, I came to fulfill the law.

Matthew 5:17-18 NASB “Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. (18) “For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

So, we then, live under grace, but that does not prevent the law from speaking to our spirits, as the law is now written upon our hearts. We live and breathe the perfect law of liberty, and it does not advocate foul mouths and bad attitudes.

  • because You have taken Your great power and have begun to reign.”

    We have not seen the events, as we trek through the Revelation, that solidify this image in our heads, as yet, so how can they say this?

    It is only possible because we have bypassed some details and jumped forward in time. These events only happen when we get to Revelation 19:11 through Revelation 20:4, and I am being conservative about this. Read this portion as it defines the warring Messiah that I speak of so frequently. It also describes the reign of, not only Christ but the martyred saints who will reign with Him.

    Revelation 20:4a TLV Then I saw thrones, and people sat upon them—those to whom authority to judge was given. …

    Here, the people sitting on those thrones are defined as those who had been martyred for their testimony and because of the Word of God.

Within the Revelation, the first place we see Jesus taking His throne is Revelation 11.

Revelation 11:17b NASB because You have taken Your great power and have begun to reign.

The assumption is, that after coming to earth, with a sword in His mouth, slaughtering His enemies and throwing the antichrist, false prophet, and Satan into the abyss, that He is finally sitting on His throne. The problem is that we seem to forget that when He ascended into the heavens, He sat down on the right hand of the Father, never to relinquish that throne or authority again.

Ephesians tells us that God seated Him and God does NOT change His mind.

Ephesians 1:20a NASB which He brought about in Christ, when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places,

Hebrews conveys how He was done and sat down next to the Father.

Hebrews 1:3b NASB … and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,

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Since we Gentiles were not taught to despise the New Covenant, we should have a grasp on these representations of Christ on the throne, reigning. Now, if we have a problem grasping this, the difficulty could come from the fact that Satan, though thrown out of heaven and formally stripped of his power, is still running around accusing the followers of Christ. Perhaps this will help you understand. Here in America, President William (Bill) Clinton was impeached, the problem for my understanding is that nothing seemed to change. You might have thought, good, now he will be gone, but he did not go anywhere. It kind of made me wonder what was really supposed to happen in an impeachment. But here is what Satan did In a sense Satan, impeached with a perpetual prison sentence awaiting him, deceived Eve. He did NOT deceive Adam, and therefore gained sole and rightful ownership of the earth. Here in the problem lies.

But what about the Jews?

Most will NOT accept any aspect of the New Testament, however, if you were to ask me I would tell you that this book we call a bible is a very Jewish book; and, there is little in the New Testament that is not originally a theme within the law and the prophets. If the Jews cannot now see Him on the throne, then a day is coming when, before their very eyes, He will take His seat once again, and He will do it in a dramatic fashion, right after He slaughters His enemies at the wedding supper of the Lamb.

Watch this interaction.

Revelation 19:7-9 NASB “Let us rejoice and be glad and give the glory to Him, for the marriage of the Lamb has come and His bride has made herself ready.” (8) It was given to her to clothe herself in fine linen, bright and clean; for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints. (9) Then he *said to me, “Write, ‘Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.'” And he *said to me, “These are true words of God.”

In what seems like only moments later, we see this.

Revelation 19:11-15 NASB (11) And I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse, and He who sat on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness, He judges and wages war. (12) His eyes are a flame of fire, and on His head are many diadems, and He has a name written on Him which no one knows except Himself. (13) He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God. (14) And the armies which are in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, were following Him on white horses. (15) From His mouth comes a sharp sword, so that with it He may strike down the nations, and He will rule them with a rod of iron; and He treads the winepress of the fierce wrath of God, the Almighty.

And then an angel speaks.

Revelation 19:17-18 NASB (17) Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and he cried out with a loud voice, saying to all the birds which fly in mid-heaven, “Come, assemble for the great supper of God, (18) so that you may eat the flesh of kings and the flesh of commanders and the flesh of mighty men and the flesh of horses and of those who sit on them and the flesh of all men, both free men and slaves, and small and great.”

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Let’s see if we can fly through these last two verses.

Revelation 11:18 NASB “And the nations were enraged, and Your wrath came, and the time came for the dead to be judged, and the time to reward Your bond-servants the prophets and the saints and those who fear Your name, the small and the great, and to destroy those who destroy the earth.”

  • And the nations were enraged,” This is a defiant rage.

    Past or a future event? If it’s future it may be referring to a moment like this.

    Revelation 16:10-11 NASB (10) Then the fifth angel poured out his bowl on the throne of the beast and his kingdom became darkened, and they gnawed their tongues because of pain, (11) and they blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores; and they did not repent of their deeds.

    If this is talking about a time past, then perhaps 2 Kings has captured it.

    2 Kings 19:27-28 NASB ‘But I know your sitting down, And your going out and your coming in, And your raging against Me. (28) ‘Because of your raging against Me, And because your arrogance has come up to My ears, Therefore I will put My hook in your nose, And My bridle in your lips, And I will turn you back by the way which you came.

  • “ and Your wrath came,” Violent passions.

    You might think that He is referring to their wrath, but it is not. He is talking about the rage that He will pour out upon the nations.

    Daniel 8:19 NASB He said, “Behold, I am going to let you know what will occur at the final period of the indignation, for it pertains to the appointed time of the end.

  • and the time came for the dead to be judged,” The dead?

    First you need to understand something, no one really dies as our souls are eternal. Death is a complete absence from God, and, as yet, no one has truly experienced that condition, as there has been no judgment. That day will come. So these have all been lying in silence until this day; some have been lying in state considerably longer, but time has been of no consequence to them.

    Isaiah 26:19 NASB Your dead will live; Their corpses will rise. You who lie in the dust, awake and shout for joy, For your dew is as the dew of the dawn, And the earth will give birth to the departed spirits.

    Don’t get all hung up on the idea that all dead will awake to joy. Matthew 25, where we see the sheep and goat judgment is the same scenario. No one appears to say anything, and then God separates them into what He refers to as sheep and goats. He grants the sheep (followers) entrance into the kingdom – something they did NOT expect, and they ask why.

    Daniel 12:2 NASB “Many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake, these to everlasting life, but the others to disgrace and everlasting contempt.

    Matthew 25 and Revelation 20:12-15 are the same story from different perspectives.

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      • Revelation 20:12-15 NASB (12) And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throneand books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds. (13) And the sea gave up the dead which was in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which was in them; and they were judged, every one of them according to their deeds. (14) Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. (15) And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

If you were among these dead taunted by these books, only to find that it was all a farce as you were all condemned to a fiery death, then that would make God a liar and worthy of death Himself. God, does not lie, He cannot, so we can know that there is hope for many.

By the way, the usage of the word judged in Revelation 11:18, seems inappropriate as it is the Greek word krínō and means to separate, distinguish, or discriminate between good and evil. This is what we see Jesus/God do in Matthew 25.

  • and the time to reward Your bond-servants the prophets and the saints and those who fear Your name, the small and the great,”

    If you have spent any amount of time in the church, then you have heard condemning sermons about the bema seat of Christ. You will find references to this in Romans 14:10 and 2Corinthians 5:10. They both speak of the judgment seat, which in Greek is the bema seat. This judgment that we see in Revelation 11 is NOT the bema seat it is the Greek word krínō, a separation, as I mentioned above. The Bema seat is the one that most understand to be in the moments after the rapture of the church. If it is included in Revelation 11, along with the wrath and judgment of the dead, then perhaps we have placed this event in the wrong spot, but I don’t think so as the context of the verse is about God separating the wheat from the tares, which look very similar to a city boy.

  • and to destroy those who destroy the earth.”

    Those who destroy the earth, have done so: in the name of greed and self will. They have shown no kindness to the earth and will be judged harshly, primarily because they have injured the people, the heart of God and His creation.

Revelation 11:19 NASB And the temple of God which is in heaven was opened; and the ark of His covenant appeared in His temple, and there were flashes of lightning and sounds and peals of thunder and an earthquake and a great hailstorm.

Sometimes I don’t know what to say. I wish I could say it’s done, but I know other aspects, like the bowl judgments will be discussed. For the moment I want you to see what Dr. J. Vernon McGee said about this.

When we see the church again, it will be in the New Jerusalem, and we are told definitely that there is no temple there. Here there is a temple in heaven. The temple which Moses made was made after the pattern in heaven. “And the sanctuary (temple) of God in heaven was opened” means that God is dealing now with Israel.”

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My two witnesses. Revelation 11:3-12

If you were to ask, I would tell you that my favorite biblical character is the prophet Samuel. Like Elijah, this man did it all. Because of Israel’s pleas for God’s help Samuel prayed and the Lord sent lightning strikes, hail, and earthquakes against the Philistines. Look up the dynamics of lightning and you might get this.

Lightning is a discharge of electricity. A single stroke of lightning can heat the air around it to 30,000°C (54,000°F)! This extreme heating causes the air to expand explosively fast. The expansion creates a shock wave that turns into a booming sound wave, known as thunder.

Surprisingly, people have been struck by lightning and lived. But what about the shock wave from a lightning strike?

the brain—even without a direct hit to the head—could be seriously injured by primary blast waves that last just milliseconds. Scientists discovered a distinctive honeycomb pattern of broken and swollen nerve fibers in the brains of five Iraq and Afghanistan combat veterans who survived multiple IEDs and died later of other causes. The tiny wounds—different from brain damage caused by car crashes or collision sports—were identified in brain regions that affect decision-making, memory, and reasoning, and maybe “the signature of blast injury,”

Imagine baseball-sized hailstones raining down upon you while you are running for cover, just to have the earth open up and swallow some of your troops. This is how God responded to Samuel’s prayer for help. But the most dramatic aspect of Samuel’s life came when he confronted King Saul for sparing the life of King Agag. Samuel hacks King Agag into pieces. So for a while, when Samuel came into town, the town leaders would ask him if he had come in peace.

As a youth I was anything but feared or respected, and the hope that coming to Jesus might change all that was a real thing for me. I will add, when I graduated from high school I was five foot seven; I am now six foot four, and yes, I have used my size to intimidate, but in truth, I did it to keep people from seeing the fear in me. (If you have been abused in any way, it will take your lifetime to try and get past it, and it is a struggle.)

For the reasons that I have pointed out, I have loved the story of God’s two witnesses; and thus begins this dive into Revelation 11:3-12.

“Also I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, dressed in sackcloth.” These are the two olive trees and the two menorahs standing before the Lord of the earth. If anyone tries to do them harm, fire comes out of their mouth and consumes their enemies—yes, if anyone tries to harm them, that is how he must die. They have the authority to shut up the sky so that no rain falls during the period of their prophesying; also they have the authority to turn the waters into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they want. When they finish their witnessing, the beast coming up out of the Abyss will fight against them, overcome them and kill them; and their dead bodies will lie in the main street of the great city whose name, to reflect its spiritual condition, is “Sodom” and “Egypt”—the city where their Lord was executed on a stake. Some from the nations, tribes, languages, and people see their bodies for three-and-a-half days and do not permit the corpses to be placed in a tomb. The people living in the Land rejoice over them, they celebrate and send each other gifts, because these two prophets tormented them so.

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But after the three-and-a-half days a breath of life from God entered them, they stood up on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them. Then the two heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here!” And they went up into heaven in a cloud, while their enemies watched them. (Revelation 11:3-12 CJB)

  • Also I will give power to my two witnesses”

    I have said many times that we are to look for witnesses. In this case, the scripture that would explain who these witnesses are according to the Torah or Tenach (for us Gentiles, that would be the Old Testament.)

    In light of their authority – In Isaiah 8:2 NASB God says, “… I will take to Myself faithful witnesses for testimony, …” Now, He goes on, in this instance, to name, Uriah the priest and Zechariah the son of Jeberechiah. Does the mention of those names exclude this from speaking about God handpicking two ancient prophets that never tasted death? Of course not, and, as you may well know, Jesus, on several occasions, used portions of passages to fit the moment. An example of this comes when Jesus announced His mission on earth.

    The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me Because the LORD has anointed me To bring good news to the afflicted; He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to captives And freedom to prisoners; (2) To proclaim the favorable year of the LORD And the day of vengeance of our God; To comfort all who mourn, Isaiah 61:1-2 NASB

    That Sabbath day, He left off a portion as He said nothing about the day of vengeance of our God. Why leave that part off? Because that time was yet to come when His judgment will be unleashed.

    In Malachi, we find a reference to Elijah coming.

    Malachi 4:5-6 NASB “Behold, I am going to send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and terrible day of the LORD. (6) “He will restore the hearts of the fathers to their children and the hearts of the children to their fathers, so that I will not come and smite the land with a curse.”

    What is the great and terrible day of the Lord? God’s wrath, that time we so foolishly call the tribulation. Has the time of God’s wrath come? Absolutely NOT, but soon.


    Thankfully, we have a heads up as to who one of the prophets is.

    If you were to ask who the other might be, I would have to lean toward the idea that man is appointed once to die, and there were only two people that the bible tells us did not die, Elijah, who has already been identified, and Enoch; and yes, Enoch is referred to as a prophet. Jude 1:14 tells us Enoch prophesied. Hebrews 11:5 tells us that he was taken up so that he might not see death. You cannot apply these parameters to Moses, as much as you might try. So by witnesses, we have established the authority of these two witnesses.

    A single witness shall not rise up against a man on account of any iniquity or any sin which he has committed; on the evidence of two or three witnesses a matter shall be confirmed.” (Deuteronomy 19:15 NASB)

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  • So this begs the question, are they testifying of God’s power, and who He is, or are they testifying against Israel and the nations?

    What a great question. I believe the answer is both, but don’t expect to hear this answer in church. Our religious mentality perceives testifying as openly speaking about what God has done in your life, with the hope of winning over the lost to Jesus. The testimony services we had in church, were along this same line. While many were interesting the main benefit of these services was that we got to bypass some hell, fire, and brimstone preaching that night.

    With all that in mind what can we expect these two to do?

    Revelation 11:5 AMP

    • And if anyone attempts to injure them,”

      If? how about no doubt about it. Every Islamic will be trying to kill them. At first, because they may look old and feeble, it would be personal attacks. Since that won’t work, it will move on to snipers, rocket-propelled grenades, and perhaps mortars.

    • Fire pours from their mouth and consumes their enemies; if anyone should attempt to harm them, thus he is doomed to be slain.

      An interesting thing about using the Amplified is that they typically give you cross-references, and they did that here. [II Kings 1:10; Jer. 5:14.]

      II Kings 1:10 speaks of Elijah and gives testimony that he had done this before. (One of the reasons that many think Moses would be one the prophets has much to do with the miracles and signs that he performed.)

      Jeremiah 5:14 tells us that God said, “ thus says the LORD, the God of hosts, “Because you have spoken this word, Behold, I am making My words in your mouth fire And this people wood, and it will consume them.” If anything this verse promotes the idea that God’s words would be fire in their mouths and that those words would consume those that hear. Honestly, it is a bit of a stretch to use Jeremiah, but the Jews, hearing these words might say, ah yes.

    Revelation 11:6 NASB

    • These have the power to shut up the sky, so that rain will not fall during the days of their prophesying;

      Why might this be important? Because when they are gone the false prophet does the opposite. He turns the rain back on. Note what the scripture says it does not rain, in at least the region, for the entire time they are prophesying.

    • and they have power over the waters to turn them into blood,

      This should make bells go off in your head. This is what God had Moses do to Egypt. Strangely, the Egyptian priests also turned the remaining water into blood. They took the remaining clean water and ruined to prove their point.

    • and to strike the earth with every plague,

      While the word used does have plague as its main definition, it also means blows, wounds or injury. 

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Why is this important? Because during the entire time of God’s wrath, the earth and the people alive here have been receiving blows, wounds, and injury. There is one other thing, and that is the man-made plagues that the global elite has released upon the earth. God will match you blow for blow. The fact that they can strike the entire earth indicates that there is NO limitation to the Word of God.

  • as often as they desire.

    And this tells me that there are NO restrictions placed upon them. You might think that they would only go after those who have tried to harm them, but that is not the case.

We are told, in Revelation 11:3, that their time on the earth in 1260 days.

Revelation 11:7 NASB

      • When they have finished their testimony,

        Jesus told us, no one takes my life, I lay it down. They knew their time is done and so did God.

      • the beast that comes up out of the abyss

        In a previous post I went into detail about how that this is Satan. You don’t have to answer this, but how many names does Satan have? Go back to Revelation 9:11 and study that out. We are jumping ahead but let’s look at Revelation 17:8 for a moment.

        Revelation 17:8 NASB “The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to come up out of the abyss and go to destruction. And those who dwell on the earth, whose name has not been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, will wonder when they see the beast, that he was and is not and will come.

        Ask yourself, when Jesus comes back as the warring messiah, only three persons are tossed into the abyss, who are they? The antichrist, the false prophet, and, for a time, Satan. In Revelation 13:2 we see the dragon (Satan) give one of the beasts his power. What power does Satan have? None, outside of deception, but there one other thing and the biggest of all, and that would be the title deed to the earth (he stole that title from Adam.) So when he is giving this beast his power, he is offering him power over the whole earth. Have you ever asked yourself, how is it that one person can seem to gain power over the entire earth? Empowered by Satan himself, the antichrist will make war with them, and, as you can tell by the next bullet point, succeed, or so he thinks.

      • will make war with them, and overcome them and kill them.

        The antichrist does not allow anyone to touch them as they want to gloat over their dead bodies.

Revelation 11:8 NASB

    • And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which mystically is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified.

      At this point the two witnesses are lying dead in the street. Imagine that, they think they have killed, or at minimum hurt God.

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It is possible that Psalm 79 is addressing this very moment in time.

Psalms 79:1-2 NASB A Psalm of Asaph. O God, the nations have invaded Your inheritance; They have defiled Your holy temple; They have laid Jerusalem in ruins. (2) They have given the dead bodies of Your servants for food to the birds of the heavens, The flesh of Your godly ones to the beasts of the earth.

Pay attention to this part, “their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which mystically is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified.”

When you struggle to understand how Babylon can be resurrected and play an end-times role, consider what God is calling Jerusalem. Funny how God has added, where their Lord was crucified. Even then He was their Lord, but they refused Him, now He is making a harsh point.

Revelation 11:9-10 NASB

      • Those from the peoples and tribes and tongues and nations will look at their dead bodies for three and a half days, and will not permit their dead bodies to be laid in a tomb.

        Prior to the advent of 24 hours news, this aspect did not make much sense, but we come to the point where you are never without news, even if it is scripted and planned lies. There are webcams everywhere, and the fact that two ancient prophets are giving people havoc, is the news. The antichrist will not permit their dead bodies to be moved.

      • (10) And those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them and celebrate; and they will send gifts to one another because these two prophets tormented those who dwell on the earth.

        Those who were hoping for the New World Order, will be having a party because of their deaths. Consider that God has been dishing out His judgments the whole of the time they have been standing in Jerusalem. But while standing there, they have been dishing out God’s judgments as well, with NO restraint. No wonder people are celebrating.

Revelation 11:11-12 NASB

    • But after the three and a half days, the breath of life from God came into them, and they stood on their feet;

      Just a guess, but I suspect the first thing those watching might say, they will know that we have been laughing and will kill us.

      God resurrects them from the dead; they have now met the requirement.

    • and great fear fell upon those who were watching them.

      I imagine so.

    • And they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” Then they went up into heaven in the cloud, and their enemies watched them.

      When God spoke in a loud voice on previous occasions, anyone that heard it said it sounded like thunder, NOT THIS TIME. And God raptured them back up into heaven.

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Revelation 11:13 NASB

    • And in that hour there was a great earthquake,

      Throughout the time of judgment there are several intense earthquakes, some sound as though the continental plates could realign and connect making one land mass, again.

    • and a tenth of the city fell;

      Only a tenth? Considering what much of Israel looks like, I would say it looks like rock and adobe construction. Much of Southern California was built from lath, plaster, and red clay bricks. In one of earthquakes many structures in the town of Whittier collapsed.

    • seven thousand people were killed in the earthquake,

      Again I reference our Southern California earthquakes. In 1994 we had the Northridge quake which struck at 04:30. Fortunately the early hour still had many people in bed and not on the freeways which buckled and collapsed. Multi-story apartments collapsed, and colleges, eleven hospitals sustained varying levels of damage, and of course phone and electricity went down. Surprisingly, only 60 died, but over 9000 were injured.

      Can you imagine how brutal this quake will be to kill over 7000.

    • and the rest were terrified and gave glory to the God of heaven.

      The rest”, these were the global spectators who laughed and partied only moments before. The entirety of God’s judgments are meant to drive you to repentance. Apparently, God made a dent in some of them.

For several posts I have referred to chronological timelines. Obviously, not everything fits precisely within a timeline, but, like these two witnesses, they insert easily. Everything about them screams that they come at almost the same time as the construction of the temple. There would be a huge association for the Jews if that happened. The amount of time that they are here is important as well, 1260 days. That is half of the seven years, and what happens at the halfway marker of the seven years? The peace treaty is broken and the false prophet steps forward.

If the false prophet is, as I say, the current high priest that presides over the sacrifices in the new temple, and, he makes a flip, converts to Islam, performs all the signs and wonders that the two witnesses have been performing, then can you see how the ELECT of Israel, the Jewish leadership, might convert and follow along with him?

Islam sees a man like the high priest within their prophecies as well, and strangely, it all makes sense.

I strongly suggest that you turn to Jesus as your savior now, not later. It is going to be unbearably difficult.

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It seems that there is a massive pause. Rev 11:1-4

So, here we are, beginning to read Revelation chapter 11. It seems like just minutes ago that we read

Revelation 10:6-7 NASB and swore by Him who lives forever and ever, WHO CREATED HEAVEN AND THE THINGS IN IT, AND THE EARTH AND THE THINGS IN IT, AND THE SEA AND THE THINGS IN IT, that there will be delay no longer, (7) but in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound, then the mystery of God is finished, as He preached to His servants the prophets.

The transition between verses six and seven is the word but; that word could indicate anything coming immediately after this conversation or another future event. The usage of the term “delay” should eliminate any future events. The problem we escapees from the nations have is that we have the worst time separating ourselves from the church age we live, as we apply our mindset and current issues to the book of Revelation. If I think in terms of the immediate and overall context, the conversation is taking place during the time of the seven trumpets; and what they bring to the earth begins in chapter eight.

  • Hail, mixed with fire and blood;

  • A third of the sea becomes blood, and a third of the sea life dies.

  • One-third of all the ships on the sea were destroyed.

  • One-third of the water sources become undrinkable, and many people died.

  • A third of the sun became darkened along with the moon.

I suspect, you get the picture, yet this is only how this “trumpet” phase begins. Any of these events could lead to devastating results. Having already, in our chronology, experienced the seal judgments, the bowl judgments, and now the trumpet judgments, you might think that those who are going to repent and come to the Lord have done so.

And yet, John is still under a directive to –

Revelation 10:11 CEV Then some voices said, “Keep on telling what will happen to the people of many nations, races, and languages, and also to kings.”

Considering where John is when this vision occurs, how is he going to make verse 11 happen?

I suppose, depending on your age and how painful it is to get up and walk, you should rejoice. However, this thought process makes me think about the many ways you could keep on telling what will happen and to whom, and writing could be one of them.

On that note, what is the next thing that John does?

He writes out what he saw and heard, with minor exceptions – like the information he was commanded NOT to share. Yet almost two thousand years later, someone like me is still writing about understanding the Revelation.

Now we have moved into chapter eleven, and it seems that there is a monumental interruption. I say this because, even though “there will be no more delays,” and yet the seventh trumpet does not come until Revelation 11:15. At this point, we need to understand WHY God inserted this coming information about measuring the temple and the two witnesses. These two witnesses are a mystery to most but vital to Israel’s repentance. Remember context, and try to think like a Jew.

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Revelation 11:1-4 CJB I was given a measuring rod like a stick and told, “Get up, and measure the Temple of God and the altar, and count how many people are worshiping there! (2) But the court outside the Temple, leave that out; don’t measure it; because it has been given to the Goyim (Gentiles,) and they will trample over the holy city for forty-two months. (3) “Also I will give power to my two witnesses; and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, dressed in sackcloth.” (4) These are the two olive trees and the two menorahs standing before the Lord of the earth.

At the time of this vision was there a temple?

No, it had been destroyed in 70 A.D., and the Bible Knowledge Commentary tells us that “Most evangelical scholars affirm that Revelation was written in a.d. 95 or 96. This is based on accounts of the early church fathers that the Apostle John had been exiled on Patmos Island during the reign of Domitian who died in a.d. 96. John was then allowed to return to Ephesus.”

John, was well aware that the temple was gone, and would not be thinking in terms of Solomon’s nor Herod’s temple so those would not apply to Revelation 11:1,2. But a future temple, in the millennial kingdom, would, and he had learned of that temple from Ezekiel chapters 40-42, 45.

Ezekiel had been taken captive into Babylon. Since the captivity was to last seventy years, the chances of Ezekiel seeing home again was slim to none. Under these circumstances, the Lord gives him a vision.

Ezekiel 40:1 CEV Twenty-five years after King Jehoiachin and the rest of us had been led away as prisoners to Babylonia, and fourteen years after the Babylonians had captured Jerusalem, the LORD’s power took control of me on the tenth day of the first month. The LORD showed me some visions in which I was carried to the top of a high mountain in Jerusalem. I looked to the south and saw what looked like a city full of buildings.

  • But don’t measure the courtyard outside the temple building. Leave it out. It has been given to those people who don’t know God, and they will trample all over the holy city for forty-two months.” Revelation 11:2.

The outer court was the only place women could go, and, it was where Jesus overthrew the tables of the money-changers and sellers of sacrificial animals.

In the previous post I showed you this passage.

Ezekiel 8:5-9 NASB Then He said to me, “Son of man, raise your eyes now toward the north.” So I raised my eyes toward the north, and behold, to the north of the altar gate was this idol of jealousy at the entrance. (6) And He said to me, “Son of man, do you see what they are doing, the great abominations which the house of Israel are committing here, so that I would be far from My sanctuary? But yet you will see still greater abominations.” (7) Then He brought me to the entrance of the court, and when I looked, behold, a hole in the wall. (8) He said to me, “Son of man, now dig through the wall.” So I dug through the wall, and behold, an entrance. (9) And He said to me, “Go in and see the wicked abominations that they are committing here.”

As far as God was concerned the courtyard was filled with abominations at the hands of the nations (ethnic groups). What then are abominations?

According to Webster’s Dictionary: defilement, pollution – in a physical sense, or evil doctrines and practices – which are moral defilements, idols and idolatry, (all of which) are called abominations. So God is giving us, once again, a definition of why He has poured out His wrath upon Israel and the nations;

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in all of this He wishes to see repentance, but for many, it never comes. We have been using the term nations and gentiles quite freely, perhaps we need to go over how this word was perceived by the Jews. Nation and Gentiles were synonymous terms, however, the Greek term is ethnos. That should sound familiar as it is a base from which we get ethnicity. Sadly, ethnicity is wrapped up in racism, and everyone practices some form of racism. By Jewish standards, it referred to anyone outside of the Jewish religion. Since the time of Christ and the age of grace, “the nations” refers to anyone who is not in Christ. We, by the way, became a part of Christ’s body of believers when we accepted Him and the life He gave for us. Nations then simply boils down to the haters outside of Christ.

Do you know that even within religions there are many haters?

We might assume the Gentiles would be the abomination, but no, it’s aliens (I jest, sort of.) Look at what Jeremiah tells us.

Jeremiah 51:51 NASB We are ashamed because we have heard reproach; Disgrace has covered our faces, For aliens have entered The holy places of the LORD’S house.

Aliens seems to be a hot topic lately. Here it is the Hebrew word zur and means strangers, enemies, illegitimate, adulteress, and outsiders. Maybe it would help you understood if you consider that because Mary stood her ground and insisted that God was Jesus’s Father, that Jesus was deemed to be a mumzer (an illegitimate child.) Do you think for a second that the tightly knit community believed Mary’s story? If you never watched The Chosen, there is a scene when Jesus, and all the disciples, walked into a local synagogue. The priest was reading, with what seemed like a vile anger, Deuteronomy 23.

Deuteronomy 23:2 NASB “No one of illegitimate birth shall enter the assembly of the LORD; none of his descendants, even to the tenth generation, shall enter the assembly of the LORD.

By this standard Jesus could not and should not have entered a Synagogue, nor be taught in the Rabbinical schools; and yet Jesus, at age 12, stood His ground with the learned men in the temple. Jesus birth, by all standards, should have made Jesus the alien because he was thought by most to be illegitimate. Fascinating, and yet He was well educated in the scriptures. Some would use the lame reasoning that He was God and therefore, had special understanding or privilege. The problem with that kind of thinking is that the majority of us only accept that He was God as head knowledge, and then, only because we have heard someone say it; and yet, many will fight with you if you say that Jesus had NO special privilege and had to be taught just as the pharisees were. There is a logical explanation for this but this is not the time or place.

Moving on with Revelation 11:3,4.

Also I will give power to my two witnesses; and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, dressed in sackcloth.” (4) These are the two olive trees and the two menorahs standing before the Lord of the earth.”

I find the introduction of the two witnesses uncomfortable as I try to make them fit into MY scheme of things. (Yes, that’s what we do, and because we are prone to do that, we have to force ourselves to pay attention to context and let scripture define scripture.)

How and why is any of this information that we see in Revelation 11:1-4 significant?

I hope this short dive into the potential chronological events associated with Revelation 11:1-4 that initiate the rapture and immediately after that might help.

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  • The rapture of the church must be the first thing that happens, and then the antichrist comes on the scene. 2 Thessalonians 2:3 Geneva “Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a departing first, and then that man of sin be disclosed, even the son of perdition,” (I made it a bit more readable.) I used the Geneva bible because it was one of the first printed translations and they got it right. 

  • The Revelation makes me believe that God’s judgments begin shortly after the church is removed, and with the opening of the first seal (Revelation 6:1) we get the antichrist – the rider on the white horse. A common understanding is that a person scripture calls the antichrist, will make a peace treaty with many. It does not specify Israel and is foolish to think so. The Muslims will not listen to someone who is not a Muslim, and since the majority of players in this war are Muslims, well you do the math.

    Doesn’t the fact that there is a call for peace imply that there will be another hellish war going on? Everything I see tells me that this war will be against Israel, and there is a great chance that the mosque that is on the temple mount will get destroyed.

  • Moments after the removal of the church people will be trying to kill each other. Revelation 6:2,3, the second seal is broken and the rider on the red horse takes peace from the earth. Some might say, that this is nothing new, just look at the news. Yeah, I get that, but the escalation in the number of killings will be horrific.

  • In the midst of all this, the temple in Jerusalem will have to be built, but something has to be done about that Mosque before that can happen. War may take care of that, or the firestorm that Ezekiel 38,39 speaks of. The temple will only function, as the Jews expect, for 1260 days – give or take, and then the abomination that Daniel informed us about will be set up, and the people will be forced to worship the image. There might be months in between the onslaughts, but who can say. Many think building the temple would be time-consuming, not really, for two reasons: First, they can use a temporary structure that can be put up overnight. Secondly, because the design and concrete walls are already made, they merely need to be bolted together. Everything is ready, including the high priest, a fairly young man named Rabbi Baruch Kahane. An article from August tells us about him.

Ah, finally, the two witnesses.

  • Let’s assume that the two witnesses have arrived from heaven at the same time as the construction of the temple. The two witnesses are only here for 1260 days; considering what they have come out of their mouths, they might help serve as force protection for the temple and those making sacrifices. Why say that? Because with their deaths, we have the false prophet shoved down our throats, and he acts similarly to these prophets of God; for example, the prophets stop the rain, and the false prophet turns it back on again. The false prophet also becomes the enforcer of Sharia law. It seems that the death of God’s prophets enables the last half of the seven years to take place.

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While I would love to talk about these two witnesses briefly, the conversation about the two witnesses is a post in itself, and I will pass until the next post.

  • As the third seal is opened, food becomes more scarce, and we all get hit with hyperinflation. So, if you can find any food, you won’t be able to afford it. Revelation 6:5,6.

  • When the Lamb broke the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature saying, “Come.” I looked, and behold, an ashen horse; and he who sat on it had the name Death; and Hades was following with him. Authority was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword and with famine and with pestilence and by the wild beasts of the earth.” Revelation 6:7-8. How are these riders killing? Sword, famine, pestilence, and by beasts of the earth. Pestilence, according to The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, is defined as any sudden fatal epidemic. The Greek word is thánatos and means death. The question is, aren’t we currently dealing with a so-called pandemic with a “deadly” Covid virus?

If you are reading along with me in your bibles, then you are aware that God is NOT scheduling these events on the calendar for our direct benefit. He does, however, have a calendar if we are paying attention, and we are deeply entrenched in His calendar right now.

Having spent my life in the church, I have seen everything, and not all of it was good. Several “teachers” have tried to come up with chronological views. One resource on my computer is Rev. Clarence Larkin’s Book of Charts. If this was supposed to make sense and be helpful to me, then why can I NOT grasp most of what I see there?

I am not so unlike you; I want to understand and clearly explain what I see there. Having been attacked by a pastor who said, no one understands the Revelation, I have taken the position that says, I do; and if I don’t, then I will have to rely on doing my homework and the guidance of the Holy Spirit to come up with an answer. (By the way, I do not have to answers immediately and will allow myself time to come up with one.) Study your bibles and lean on the Holy Spirit. Don’t allow someone else to tell you what it means; most of the time, what they are saying is garbage. After several weeks of explaining the Revelation, one such pastor merely noted that the twelve elders were the church. He did not explain why; trust me, it needed an explanation; not just because I say so, but because there is little to define how or why the twelve are the church. Oh, it’s there in scripture, and it took Pastor John MacArthur to explain it, and I can hardly stand the man because he is so mean.

We, the church, are on the edge of eternity right now. Those who are not part of the church are going to have the worst time possible. Just the little bit that I have pointed out here should make that plain.

Put your faith in Jesus Christ. He died for your sins and rose again so that you might have a life with the Father. None of this is automatic and asks that you put your faith in Him. If you do that, you will be His forever, and you will live in His peaceful kingdom.

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