I am against you O Gog. Ezekiel 39 verses 1 through 6


While the study will be focused on Ezekiel 39, I saw such strong similarities to Ezekiel 38 that I felt I needed to quickly probe Ezekiel 38 once again.

And the Word of Jehovah came to me, saying, Son of man, set your face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief ruler of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal, and prophesy against him. And say, So says the Lord Jehovah: Behold, I am against you, O Gog, the chief ruler of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal. And I will turn you back, and put hooks into your jaws, and I will bring you out, and all your army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed most perfectly, a great assembly with buckler and shield, all of them swordsmen; Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them, all of them with shield and helmet; Gomer and all his bands; the house of Togarmah from the recesses of the north, and all his bands; and many peoples with you. Ezekiel 38:1-6 MKJV)

One would assume some time has passed as God is desirous of emphasizing once again, His burning passion against the embodiment of this entity called Gog, and, we can hardly miss what seems like a desire to destroy these people. At the same time, there is the need to use them. Everything is a tool for God’s purpose; fortunately for us, His purpose is good.

It seems odd, especially after doing a book study on The Shack by William Paul Young, that I could even consider saying that God wants to destroy people. This certain destruction against the armies of Gog is another of those instances where you find what looks like as an angry God, determined to wipe people off the earth. What we have to remember is that people have choices. Assume for a minute that the followers of Gog are all vicious Mongol remnants. Bred with a childhood training that teaches them to hate, while enjoying the philosophy that what’s yours is mine and what is mine belongs to me as well; it would seem that their options for a positive, loving role model are limited. Whether they are in a sense sacrificed is not our problem, and God then has the position of looking at the heart and finding the good; something that we are all capable of. Right there, I said it, good is something we are all capable of; but do we do the good? How is it that we are capable, given the tragic backgrounds many experience? Because that same tree that brought this death, in the form of separation from God, also brought the knowledge of evil. When we read about the incident, we perceive the phrase, “the knowledge of good and evil.” Is it possible that Adam did not know good? Not hardly, he was created in the image of God who made him. That means that he was the exacting image of the nature and character of that God. Now the logical path is considered the life Adam lived before his decision to do things his way, and take and eat the fruit that he just watched his woman eat. This decision, with the corresponding action, was a choice; a somewhat convoluted one, but none-the-less a choice.

As I opened, I used the word entity to describe Gog, why would I do that? If “he” is the dominant leader of a varied group of people (consider in your research the Scythians,) then as I understand this, Gog will die only to rally, once again, an uncountable number at the end of the thousand-year reign. That would give Gog a lifespan of approximately four thousand years, or he is resurrected specifically to fight, once again, against God at the end of time.

Since it is not logical to assume this “man” is resurrected, then we must be dealing with a demon/fallen angel who is embodied in some human at the moment. I am sure many of you find this concept far reaching and unusual, if so, then what do you do with information like the clues we are given, as a statue, explained by Daniel, is made from metals but defined as empires. Those same empires are in time represented by a goat; a ram; a bear; a leopard; a lion, and an eagle. This imagery is eventually combined into a seven headed beast with one body. Ten horns come out of one of the heads and then an eleventh. One of the heads (an empire) sustains what seems to the world to be a mortal wound. Do you find anything unusual about this imagery?

Ezekiel 39 – verses 1-6

“And you, son of man, prophesy against Gog and say, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD, “Behold, I am against you, O Gog, prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal; and I will turn you around, drive you on, take you up from the remotest parts of the north and bring you against the mountains of Israel. Ezekiel 39:1-2 NASB)

While prophesying against Gog is an integral aspect of Ezekiel 38, the thing that catches my attention is the words, “ set your face against Gog.” Chapter 38 gives us a rather detailed list of those involved, but what does this simple word “set” mean?

śiym – Set is a verb meaning to appoint, to bring, to call, to put, to change, to charge, to commit, to consider, to convey, to determine.

Considering how Ezekiel 39 begins, the context for Ezekiel 38:2 where it says, “set your face against Gog,” implies that Ezekiel is to consider and charge Gog. It would be foolish to think that a captive of Babylon would have the ear of a chief ruler.

What difference would it make if Gog heard, or did not hear these words?

None, whatsoever; for God is not asking them to repent, nor is he interested in their opinion. He, God, through his prophet, says, “So says the Lord Jehovah: Behold, I am against you.”

Interesting contrast. How did God approach Nineveh?

Jonah 1:2 CJB “Set out for the great city of Nineveh, and proclaim to it that their wickedness has come to my attention.”

However, Jonah did not do that; instead, he tried to escape this call upon him by taking a boat going the opposite direction. He never told the men what his mission was supposed to be; he merely told them that their troubles were because of his inaction in disobeying God’s voice. They followed Jonah’s advice and threw him into the sea. It is not until Jonah is vomited upon the shore by the fish, followed by a long journey, of which he is now one day’s journey into the rather large city, that he begins to proclaim,

Jonah 3:4 LITV And Jonah began to enter a day’s journey into the city. And he cried out and said, Yet forty days and Nineveh shall be overturned!

This message to Nineveh came with no offers of mercy should they repent, and yet, there, as we can see in verse nine, mercy, because of their actions comes.

It is possible that this thought entered the mind of their king through the Holy Spirit, as the likelihood of some interaction with the prophet Joel is not probable. Here is what the king of the Ninevehites said,

Jonah 3:9 CJB Who knows? Maybe God will change his mind, relent and turn from his fierce anger; and then we won’t perish.”

How odd. It is certainly not word for word, but the intent is understood.

Joel 2:12-14 NASB “Yet even now,” declares the LORD, “Return to Me with all your heart, And with fasting, weeping and mourning; 13) And rend your heart and not your garments.” Now return to the LORD your God, For He is gracious and compassionate, Slow to anger, abounding in lovingkindness And relenting of evil. 14) Who knows whether He will not turn and relent And leave a blessing behind Him, Even a grain offering and a drink offering For the LORD your God?

King David, caught with the result of his rendezvous with Bathsheba, said,

2 Samuel 12:21-23 NASB Then his servants said to him, “What is this thing that you have done? While the child was alive, you fasted and wept; but when the child died, you arose and ate food.” 22) He said, “While the child was still alive, I fasted and wept; for I said, ‘Who knows, the LORD may be gracious to me, that the child may live.’ 23) “But now he has died; why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I will go to him, but he will not return to me.”

When it came to Israel’s rejection the Psalmist tells us,

Psalms 106:43-46 NASB Many times He would deliver them; They, however, were rebellious in their counsel, And so sank down in their iniquity. 44) Nevertheless, He looked upon their distress When He heard their cry; 45) And He remembered His covenant for their sake, And relented according to the greatness of His lovingkindness. 46) He also made them objects of compassion In the presence of all their captors.

Would, or could God’s hand of mercy be extended to even someone like Gog? Absolutely.

As we saw with Nineveh, mercy took some action on their part. Now, mind you, the mercy, was only temporary as the nation eventually returned to its old ways and was in time destroyed completely. Archaeology proves this out, and the remains of Nineveh were found just outside of Mosul Iraq in the form of several mounds.

The truth seems to be that this entity called Gog would have found another victim to carry out the plans ultimately designed by God. Just like we see in Ezekiel 38 where it says,

Ezekiel 38:4 CJB “I will turn you around, put hooks in your jaws and bring you out ..”

We find a similar description in Ezekiel 39:

Ezekiel 39:2 CJB I will turn you around, lead you on and bring you from the far reaches of the north against the mountains of Isra’el.

In talking about Gog in Ezekiel 38, we established that this person is the chief prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal. Here in chapter 39, this point is still held before us.

Ezekiel 39:1 NASB “And you, son of man, prophesy against Gog and say, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD, “Behold, I am against you, O Gog, prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal;

The prophecy against Gog takes on much greater complexity when we understand the land mass that Gog has under his control. Perhaps our knowledge of how far the descendants of Noah extended will help us better understand Ezekiel 39:2 – 5. Gog is the leader of the unified group originally known as the Scythians. This group includes: The Medes, Persians, all descendants of Noah, and extended Northeast into China; South into Egypt, and West into Europe. It included the lineage of Attila the Hun. The Scythians were well known for their savagery; their skills as horsemen, and for their mounted warfare archery skills.

One thing to note, there is nothing that forces us to focus exclusively on the leaders of Russia, or Turkey, as they are all descendants of the Scythians. However, there is that one aspect that tends to hang us up, “from the remotest parts of the North.” With the understanding that the descendants of Noah – the Scythians, were far reaching into the North, then this can be just about anyone, including an Iranian.

Ezekiel 39:2-5 NASB and I will turn you around, drive you on, take you up from the remotest parts of the north and bring you against the mountains of Israel. 3) “I will strike your bow from your left hand and dash down your arrows from your right hand. 4) “You will fall on the mountains of Israel, you and all your troops and the peoples who are with you; I will give you as food to every kind of predatory bird and beast of the field. 5) “You will fall on the open field; for it is I who have spoken,” declares the Lord GOD.

Specific actions to be taken by God:

  1. I will turn you around, drive you on, take you up from the remotest parts of the North and bring you against the mountains of Israel.”

  2. I will strike your bow from your left hand and dash down your arrows from your right hand.”

  3. You will fall on the mountains of Israel, you and all your troops and the peoples who are with you;”

  4. I will give you as food to every kind of predatory bird and beast of the field.”

  5. You will fall on the open field;”

Each one of these aspects could be examined alone, but the motivation and intent are God’s alone and this is made clear in Ezekiel 38:16.

Ezekiel 38:16 LITV And you shall come up on My people Israel like a cloud, to cover the land. It shall be in the after days, and I will bring you against My land so that the nations may know Me, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes, Gog.

The idea of sanctification is to be set aside for God’s usage, and, has everything to do with God causing the nations to recognize Him. Note how it says, “when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.”

Other problems we struggle with: We never consider Gog as merely a tool, especially if it has pain and death involved with it. And, we never seem to see that all life is in God’s hands and it is His to use as He wishes. All those with Gog, it seems, die, but not without purpose, and in this case, they demonstrate, by their death, God’s power.

Many associate what is about to come with Psalm 83, while others try to explain that this group of nations is a separate war entirely. As I see it, we are in the last minutes before God pours out His wrath upon the earth. Sorry, but yes, He uses people like Gog to help carry out that wrath. I cannot imagine how there would be time for two extensive attacks against Israel in the next few days. Especially when one of the attacks has a massive fire storm that falls upon the coastlands as well as the mountains of Israel – taking out thousands upon thousands of combatants. With the possible exception of Psalm 83, I do not see that Bible supports an attack on Israeli by anyone other than Gog in the last moments before the judgment of God comes against the earth.

Psalms 83:2-5 NASB For behold, Your enemies make an uproar, And those who hate You have exalted themselves. 3) They make shrewd plans against Your people and conspire together against Your treasured ones. 4) They have said, “Come, and let us wipe them out as a nation, That the name of Israel be remembered no more.” 5) For they have conspired together with one mind; Against You, they make a covenant:

Psalms 83:6-8 gives us a list of the players involved: Edom; the Ishmaelites, Moab; the Hagrites; Gebal; Ammon; Amalek; Philistia; the inhabitants of Tyre, and Assyria also has joined with them – ten nations. Because the word through Ezekiel refers to the multitudes with Gog, it ‘s hard to narrow the nations down to ten. Whether this fits the bill for a new war against Israel or not seems irrelevant when we have such a definitive word against Gog.

Ezekiel 39:6 NASB “And I will send fire upon Magog and those who inhabit the coastlands in safety; and they will know that I am the LORD.

If God is talking about the area in the map (as seen above), an area that indicates the world known to the ancient Hebrews. The coastlands then could be limited to: The Caspian Sea; The Black Sea; The Persian Gulf; The Mediterranean Sea, and the Red Sea or the Persian Gulf as we now know it. All of these have ample coastlands and could easily fit the bill and would not include places like England or the United States of America. Do not get the impression that I am saying Britain and the USA will be excluded from problems; to the contrary, we will be neck deep in them. There have been far too many prophecies indicating that the US for one, will be the target of a nuclear attack, from multiple sources. England is so far into the Muslim transition that they are barely breathing as a free land.

Note how it says, “those who inhabit the coastlands in safety. If Ezekiel 38:11 is a clue as to what this means, it tends to focus on Israel alone as Israel is the land described.

Usage of the word safety can also imply an arrogance. You might see them being so bold as to say, look at us and good we have it.

Ezekiel 38:10-11 NASB ‘Thus says the Lord GOD, “It will come about on that day, that thoughts will come into your mind and you will devise an evil plan, 11) and you will say, ‘I will go up against the land of unwalled villages. I will go against those who are at rest, that live securely, all of them living without walls and having no bars or gates,

Since Israel is God’s chosen we don’t have to look far to understand who might be involved. In doing a quick mental check, there is minimal land along the coasts of the Mediterranean where I can find peace. Most nations, thanks to warfare, have little that looks like walls. Gaza, to the South, has no peace, and countries around the Persian Gulf are in a constant state of flux due to their belief systems. Nations that surround the Black Sea, or the Caspian Sea, are lesser known to me, although there is the awareness of what we call civil wars. Some of these nations have been battling with Russia for sovereignty. Most of us have seen enough of Russia’s actions to know that when they move against you, you typically lose.

The word safety is the Hebrew word beṭaḥ: A masculine noun or adjective meaning security. As a noun, it primarily means security or calm assurance. As an adjective, it means assurance or confidence. It is primarily a positive term: to dwell in safety because of God’s protection. This last aspect of the description, as stated in the Word Study Dictionary, tends to limit the protection to those that God is protecting. However, the implications of the passage lend themselves to those who are operating in conjunction with Gog. Does this mean there will be an active participation in warfare? Not necessarily, as so much of war happens in offices and banks. Do the math. The Rothschild family has financed every war, both sides, since the world has been deemed modern. With that in mind, try to imagine the ways to participate in a war and never fire a shot. If you can, then you have imagined the beast of Revelation.

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Daniel chapter 12, verses 3-13. Notes I used to lead Bible Study


Those who have insight will shine

I have so many thoughts running through my head on this subject. Let’s break it down in simple terms. Why do some of us get what is going on around us, while others, still espousing the same old worn out rhetoric, say, we have been looking for Christ for over 2500 years and he hasn’t come back, so stop talking about His soon return. My own pastor told me that prophetic teaching about end times are peripherals and apparently we shouldn’t waste any time on teaching about what is coming. Others, just will not get understand, they don’t want to. And yet, there are those words – “Those who have insight will shine.

What did Daniel learn?

Daniel 12:3 NASB “Those who have insight will shine brightly like the brightness of the expanse of heaven, and those who lead the many to righteousness, like the stars forever and ever.

Is God being selective about whom he allows to understand, or is it that he only accepts the wise? I don’t believe either is the case, but he certainly knew who would demonstrate the desire to understand and not call the tumult going on around us which is so definitely aligned with scripture, mere peripherals, and not worthy of our time.

The book of Daniel is considered an apocalyptic book due to the imagery; imagery that would make no sense, in some cases, for thousands of years.

There is, however, a massive clue that we should never lose sight of, and that is the fact that Daniel was meant for a Jewish understanding, as is the Revelation written by John. The major impact seen in Daniel has to do with a region heavily influenced by the Persian and Assyrian empires, and how the descendants of those people are to be the major players in the end times. Sure, there are others wishing to play a role; we see them under the guise of the beast of Babylon; but know this, their end will come. Keep in mind, that without Ishmael and the descendants of Noah, there would be no other players in this end game.

  • Those who have insight..”

 

The phrase, those who have is the Greek word sakal and means to act wisely. “To act wisely” has many implications. 

The word insight is also the word sakal; having been declared twice, therefore implies a special emphasis or importance to the Jewish mind. Alternate words are comprehend, consider, and discern.

One might say that those who have insight and instruct will shine brightly, or, Those who are prudent or behave themselves wisely, will comprehend.

 

  • those who lead the many to righteousness”

The word lead can be read as: lead to righteousness. We do that through the act of appropriate teaching. Sadly, I find appropriate teaching to be rare anymore.

The prophet Micah spoke of teaching.

Micah 4:1-2 NASB And it will come about in the last days That the mountain of the house of the LORD Will be established as the chief of the mountains. It will be raised above the hills, And the peoples will stream to it. 2) Many nations will come and say, “Come and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD And to the house of the God of Jacob, That He may teach us about His ways And that we may walk in His paths.” For from Zion will go forth the law, Even the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.

The KJV of Daniel 12:3 substantiates this idea of teaching,

And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.”

It matters not which translation you use, the theme is the same.

The“they” we see in the KJV are the learned in the ways of God; those wise in the word; the skillful in or with the word, OR, it could merely be the obedient that will turn many to righteousness. Effectively, this will be the Jews.

  • and they that turn many to righteousness”

The problem is that God wanted this from Israel the entire time.

The prophet Jeremiah tells us that Israel’s teachers did not listen to God and therefore Israel turned their backs on Him.

Jeremiah 23:21-22 NASB “I did not send these prophets, But they ran. I did not speak to them, But they prophesied. 22) “But if they had stood in My council, Then they would have announced My words to My people, And would have turned them back from their evil way And from the evil of their deeds.

But the day is coming when Israel will take the teaching lead God longed for.

Zechariah 8:23 AMPC+ Thus says the Lord of hosts: In those days ten men out of all languages of the nations shall take hold of the robe of him who is a Jew, saying, Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.

Common sense and scripture tell you that these are Jews who are doing the teaching.

2 Corinthians 3:16 KJV Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the veil shall be taken away. (“It” referenced here is the nation of Israel.)

And He will remove the reproach of His people from all the earth

Isaiah 25:7-8 NASB And on this mountain He will swallow up the covering which is over all peoples, Even the veil which is stretched over all nations. 8) He will swallow up death for all time, And the Lord GOD will wipe tears away from all faces, And He will remove the reproach of His people from all the earth; For the LORD has spoken.

Note that theseturn many to righteousness..” This should be markedly easier as God lifts the veil off of, not only Israel but the nations as well.

What time frame are we talking about?

My immediate response was the Millennial reign, however, I have come to understand that that is incorrectDaniel 11:33-35 NASB gives us a bit more insight when it says, “Some of those who have insight will fall, in order to refine, purge and make them pure until the end time; because it is still to come at the appointed time.

Daniel 11:33-35 parallels Daniel 12:10, but we will get into that momentarily.

Since dying during the Millennial reign for the follower of Messiah is a non-issue, why would Daniel 11:35 play a role in our thinking? It shouldn’t, therefore, this refining and purging are happening during the time of wrath, and that is exactly the purpose of the seven years.

Why is this even an issue?

Because we do not believe that God has his hand in everything, whether good or evil; it’s an issue because we can’t handle that an uncountable number continue to come to Him, and, it is an issue because shows mercy to uncountable numbers by the methods he chooses, calling all those who come His own.

Daniel 12:4 KJV But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

Daniel is told to shut up the words, and seal the book; why?

Daniel 8:25-26 KJV And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand. 26) And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days.

The words that Daniel received applied to the distant future and would make no sense until those nations arose; nations whose national emblems, in many cases, match the apocalyptic imagery Daniel saw. And, there is the introduction of a demonically driven killing machine, passing itself off as a religious ideology, unlike all others would arise in 640 AD called Islam.

As I sat in church one recent Sunday morning, I had a thought triggered by the Pastor’s excursion into the book of Colossians chapter one; the point, spelled out in the first chapter, is our hope defined in our relationship with the Father.

The angel Michael tells Daniel to go on his way for the prophecy/mystery/understanding has been sealed until the end of time. What then is, or was the end of time?

Since Daniel had previously been told that there would be seventy weeks of years until the Messiah would come as expected, and, we know that the 69th week has come and gone, could we then say, that the end has come?

What if we added Joel 2 into the mix?

The prophet Joel tells us that in the last days that God will pour out His spirit on all flesh. Since Peter, on the day of Pentecost, declared this prophecy (at least this aspect) fulfilled, and, we have had momentary glimpses of His spirit being poured out, then are we in the last days?

The Apostle Paul writing to the church in Colossae, said, in chapter 1:26, that the mystery is now revealed to His saints. I get it, there is always a context and it seems to apply to the riches of glory now made known and available to the Gentiles. But, aren’t the riches of glory the hope that we long for?

Sure, much of our hope applies to our life in and with the Father, but, doesn’t having an understanding of how we get there and what the path that leads to eternity looks like, play a role in understanding this hope? How do you hope for something you don’t understand? Good question, but that theme alone played a major role in lives of our fathers. An example:

Hebrews 11:8 NASB By faith Abraham, when he was called, obeyed by going out to a place which he was to receive for an inheritance; and he went out, not knowing where he was going.

But we have a road map to help us with our understanding, don’t we?

Unlike Daniel and all the saints who passed on before say 1948, we who are in Christ have the road-map (prophecy.)

Matthew 24:32 NASB “Now learn the parable from the fig tree: when its branch has already become tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near;”

This is Israel being talked about and the process began when Israel became a nation in 1948. If I apply this thinking to the book of Daniel, virtually every chapter is an aspect of that road map. The disciples had asked specific questions and one of them was, what would be the signs indicating His return. The “parable” of the fig tree was an aspect of Jesus’ answer.

Allow me to add that, we are not in the dark and as disciples ourselves, it is given to us to know. We have no excuses. You can find these references in Luke 8:10; Matthew 13:11, and Mark 4:11-12.

Daniel 12:9 KJV And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

Apparently, God did not wish for this information to be understood until the end. Considering that some of us are finally getting an understanding, then perhaps we are here.

If I could use only one clue it would be the fig tree.

Matthew 24:32-34 NASB “Now learn the parable from the fig tree: when its branch has already become tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near; 33) so, you too, when you see all these things, recognize that He is near, right at the door. 34) “Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.

    • many will go back and forth, and knowledge will increase.”

      Whether this means people will be able to move around quickly in airplanes, or it applies to those who pursue varied sources of knowledge, I am not sure.

      knowledge. An alternate reading suggests “calamities” or “wickedness” shall be increased, a reading supported by the LXX. The difference arises from the very slight difference between the Hebrew letters for “d” and “r,” daleth and resh, which are often confused, in Hebrew a change from hadda’ath to hara’oth, as discussed in the CB margin. If the alternative readings “apostatize” and “wickedness” are correct, this passage becomes strikingly similar to the New Testament prophecies of Paul (**2Th_2:3; **2Th_2:7, 1Ti_4:1, 2Ti_3:1-5), “except there come a falling away first” (2Th_2:3) and “And then shall that Wicked be revealed” (2Th_2:8). The Ultimate Cross-Reference Treasury

       

      While I am not able to see where this idea of calamities or wickedness comes from, I do see this subtlety in the Strong’s concordance.

      dah’-ath From H3045; knowledge: – cunning, [ig-] norantly, know(-ledge), [un-] awares (wittingly).

       

      The idea of an ignorant cunning or knowledge unawares is disturbing, to say the least. The prophet Amos, it seems, upholds this idea when he says, they will go, … but they will not find it (this knowledge.)

Amos 8:11-12 NASB “Behold, days are coming,” declares the Lord GOD, “When I will send a famine on the land, Not a famine for bread or a thirst for water, But rather for hearing the words of the LORD. 12) “People will stagger from sea to sea And from the north even to the east; They will go to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, But they will not find it.

The annoying aspect of this is that many will say Amen to the passage, refusing to hear the negative side of its connotations, and continue to preach falsely: the character of God; fail to demonstrate His nature; refuse to show people His never ending mercy, and befuddling the truth by valuing tradition rather than the Word of God.

Daniel 12:5-6 CJB “Then I, Dani’el, looked; and I saw in front of me two others, one on this bank of the river and the other on its other bank. 6) One of them asked the man dressed in linen who was above the water of the river, “How long will these wonders last?””

  • the man dressed in linen who was above the water of the river”

    This is the same description that we saw in Daniel 10:5.

    Daniel 10:5 AMPC+ I lifted up my eyes and looked, and behold, a man clothed in linen, whose loins were girded with pure gold of Uphaz.

     

    The question asked was,

  • How long will these wonders last?”

    Wonders is the Hebrew word pele and can also mean extraordinary things. Except for Lamentations 1:9, this term always appears in the context of God’s words or deeds. It is used of God’s actions among His people

Daniel 12:7 AMPC+ And I heard the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, when he held up his right and his left hand toward the heavens and swore by Him Who lives forever that it shall be for a time, times, and a half a time [or three and one-half years]; and when they have made an end of shattering and crushing the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

The short answer is three and one-half years.

What does this time period apply to? “when they have made an end of shattering and crushing the power of the holy people”

They” are the followers of the Antichrist. The specific time involved is the last period of time 1260 into the seven years of God’s wrath.

What do “they” do? Crush and shatter the power of the holy people. (The Jews)

The Word Study Dictionary explains the word power this way, “Literally, it implies the hand of a human being and occasionally the wrist. Metaphorically, it signifies strength or power.

What is it, an all inclusive destruction, or merely a handful?

Deuteronomy 32:36 NASB “For the LORD will vindicate His people, And will have compassion on His servants When He sees that their strength is gone, And there is none remaining, bond or free.

Daniel 12:8-9 NASB As for me, I heard but could not understand; so I said, “My lord, what will be the outcome of these events?” 9) He said, “Go your way, Daniel, for these words are concealed and sealed up until the end time.

What events would Michael be talking about, especially since the things Daniel has been shown cover a vast expanse of time?

The context has more to do with Daniel 12:6,7.

Daniel 12:6-7 NASB And one said to the man dressed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, “How long will it be until the end of these wonders?” 7) I heard the man dressed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, as he raised his right hand and his left toward heaven, and swore by Him who lives forever that it would be for a time, times, and half a time; and as soon as they finish shattering the power of the holy people, all these events will be completed.

Daniel asks, once again, for understanding, but the answer is disappointing, “Go your way, Daniel, for these words are concealed and sealed up until the end time.”

Daniel receives just a little more information.

Daniel 12:10 NASB “Many will be purged, purified and refined, but the wicked will act wickedly; and none of the wicked will understand, but those who have insight will understand.

  • Many will be purged, purified and refined”

    Purged is the Hebrew bārûr: A verb signifying to purify, or select.

    I can see where those who struggle with the concept of predestination could struggle with this also. How do you know if you have been excluded from knowledge unless you try?

    Again, I need to remind you that this is applicable to the time of judgment coming upon the world.

    If that is exclusively the case, then what about what Peter wrote to the early church?

1 Peter 1:6-7 NASB In this you greatly rejoice, even though now for a little while, if necessary, you have been distressed by various trials, 7) so that the proof of your faith, being more precious than gold which is perishable, even though tested by fire, may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ;

I will just say that the church is under a mandate to endure tribulations, which are an ongoing process of our life in Christ. I believe this happens because we are in Him, and therefore the target of the enemies attempts at the destruction of God.

Continuing on with Daniel 12:10 –

Purified – laben; a prim. root; to be white: – become white.

Revelation 3:18 NASB I advise you to buy from Me gold refined by fire so that you may become rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself, and that the shame of your nakedness will not be revealed; and eye salve to anoint your eyes so that you may see.

And refined ṣārap̱: A verb meaning to refine, to test. This word describes the purifying process of a refiner, who heats metal, takes away the dross, and is left with a pure substance.

Being refined is a concept that the believer should be familiar with.

Job 7:17-18 NASB “What is man that You magnify him, And that You are concerned about him, 18) That You examine him every morning And try him every moment?

And in the Revelation we find this:

Revelation 3:10 NASB ‘Because you have kept the word of My perseverance, I also will keep you from the hour of testing, that hour which is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.

but the wicked will act wickedly..”

Wicked rāšā‛: An adjective meaning wicked, guilty, in the wrong, criminal, transgressor.

 

Will act wickedly rāša‛: A verb meaning to be in the wrong, to be guilty, to be wicked, to do wickedly, to condemn.

 

So, the wicked or guilty will continue to be guilty. Why is that?

  • Because the time of purification is still active (the reference is still within the seven-years.) That means that Satan and a sin nature are still permeating people.
  • And, people still have the right to choose how they will act.

Haven’t we come to understand that God is merciful and does not want any to perish? True enough, but God also does all these things without subverting anyone’s will, or freedom of choice.

  • but those who have insight will understand”

Jesus told his own disciples that “it had been granted to them to understand the parables.” I desired to understand, always have, and finally, understanding came. Does this mean I have insight? Apparently, one promotes and works with the other.

Daniel 12:11 NASB “From the time that the regular sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.

We understand that this will take place 1,290 days into the time of wrath and judgment. Since we now know that there are 1,290 days more, then those who are enduring the time of wrath still have at least 1,290 more days. A full seven years. But wait.

Daniel 12:12 NASB “How blessed is he who keeps waiting and attains to the 1,335 days!

There are an additional 45 days added on to the end of the time of wrath. We have no direct explanation of this 45 days, however there is a variable and that would be when Christ comes back, touches down on the Mount Of Olives, wages war with those who would fight against Him, and sets up the Millennial kingdom.

It seems as if God could do all these things with a breath, but apparently not in this case.

Daniel 12:13 NASB “But as for you, go your way to the end; then you will enter into rest and rise again for your allotted portion at the end of the age.”

Once again Daniel is told to go his way. Perhaps this is another way of telling him to live out his life as none of this applies to him.

While the Jewish mind has no concept of the church or it’s snatching away, Daniel is told that he will enter into rest and rise again for his allotted portion at the end of the age. This aspect is the synopsis for the hope that we long for.

When in the chronology of time does Daniel arise?

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Daniel chapter twelve, verse 2. Yes, it’s just one verse.


Verse one transported us through “a time of distress such as never occurred since there was a nation..”, and we now find ourselves looking into the book of life; therefore, we have to be standing before the Great White Throne.

If that is the case, then we have just jumped forward in time by one thousand years.

Daniel 12:2 NASB “Many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake, these to everlasting life, but the others to disgrace and everlasting contempt.

  • Those who sleep in the dust of the ground.”

    Are dead, and the Psalmist tells us, “the dead know nothing.”

    Does it matter where they came from chronologically? No, but having missed the catching away of the church, you can easily place most them in the group as being from the nations.

    Having missed the catching away of the church are there other possibilities? Yes, those who assume they automatically belonged to the family of God merely because they attended somewhere, and then there are the Jews.

  • will awake, these to everlasting life,”

    Note: they all awake to eternal possibilities.

    Considering how some have been teaching that all those brought to the throne go to eternal hell, how is it that we see some waking to everlasting life?

    The word awake is koots and carries the idea of abruptness in starting up from sleep.

    Matthew 25 gives us the answer as the good shepherd responds to their surprise and question as to why, saying, because you did simple, good things. In other words, you acted like the character and nature of God.

    They are not lying in the dirt anxiously waiting for some reward, for as far as they know they have lost out and unaware of this awakening.

  • “but the others to disgrace and everlasting contempt.”

    Disgrace is the Greek word kherpaw and means rebuke and reproach.

    Contempt is the Greek word deraon and means abhorrence.

    Are the assessments of disgrace and everlasting contempt, coming from God, or from those rescued, living in immortal bodies before the presence of the King?

    Think about the depravity of such logic. Those of us living in millennial reign will have long been freed from the disgusting drive and motivation that would prompt us to scream out hideous provocations at someone destined for an eternal separation from God, known as hell.

The framework for what is to happen starts here:

The question, asked by the disciples, in Matthew 24:3 opens a large window of time, not to mention questions; so much gets ignored. Whether it is to everlasting life, or disgrace ( rebuke and reproach) and everlasting contempt, where in the scheme of things does this take place? There is only one place, and it is the Great White throne.

Revelation 20:7 CJB When the thousand years are over, the Adversary will be set free from his prison

At the end of the thousand year reign is where we find Satan released one last time and given enough time to deceive the nations. (There is that word – nations, once again. It is distinct and separate from God’s people, which have just been going through the thousand year reign.)

Revelation 20:8-10 CJB and (Satan) will go out to deceive the nations in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them for the battle. Their number is countless as the sand on the seashore; 9) and they came up over the breadth of the Land and surrounded the camp of God’s people and the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and consumed them. 10) The Adversary who had deceived them was hurled into the lake of fire and sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet were; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

The ERV tells us that, “He will go out to trick the nations in all the earth, the nations known as Gog and Magog.”

Note: At this point in time, verse 10, we are only aware of three individuals being in the lake of fire.

Abraham was told that his offspring would be as the sands of the sea. What do we see in Revelation 20:8? Countless numbers as they stand on the seashore. That then evokes the question, who is Abraham’s offspring?

Ishmael and Issac. Since Ishmael is an offspring, then descendants of Ishmael would be among those numbers.

A brief overview of the thousand years.

During the Millennial reign, we are told that Jews are sought out by the nations as the teachers of God’s ways. We will cover this aspect in more depth when we get to verse 3, but for now, What does that imply? It means that righteousness is continually taught and enforced.

It appears that the idea of grace (the idea that God merely forgives and overlooks sin) is gone with the catching away of the church.

The time that follows the Harpazo, the catching away of the church, is the wrath and judgment of God that the world and those still in it experiences. It would seem that during this seven years you have to prove your allegiance to God through martyrdom. This idea of brutal death is not a God demand but an unfortunate aspect of the Antichrist’s rule over the earth.

Many from the nations, now having the veil lifted from their eyes have come wholeheartedly into a bond with God. This relationship appears to be primarily through the observance of God’s statutes; we evidence this standard when the nations are made to appear yearly in Jerusalem and participate in the Feast of Tabernacles – a week long ceremony where bowing before God is a mandate.

Jeremiah 3:17 NASB “At that time they will call Jerusalem ‘The Throne of the LORD,’ and all the nations will be gathered to it, to Jerusalem, for the name of the LORD; nor will they walk any more after the stubbornness of their evil heart.

Zechariah 14:16 NASB Then it will come about that any who are left of all the nations that went against Jerusalem will go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to celebrate the Feast of Booths.

While I have been pointing out how righteousness may look during the Millennial reign there is another possibility for the nations to obtain righteousness, and that would be through the healing derived from the leaves of the trees that grow along the river that flows from the throne of God; this is the same tree of life that grew in the garden. Since we understand that the tree of life gives eternal life, just as church obtained through Jesus Christ, then those who partake of the leaves from the trees obtain this life. This idea of handing out life to people probably causes many of us great trouble, as we cannot grasp God’s ability, generosity, and wisdom in allowing something like this to happen.

Trust me on this, God, will not allow any permanent resident to bring their deviance into eternity. He could not allow Adam and Eve to do it and He won’t allow it here. Since Adam and Eve operated under the same graceless pattern as Israel did, then death would have put them in Sheol, just as Abraham and the beggar Lazarus. Anyone held captive in Hell would have been given the opportunity to accept Christ’s grace and mercy when He preached to the captives in Hades as an aspect of His death and resurrection. This moment of grace was an opportunity afforded to all. Seeing as all sin was forgiven and overlooked then all that remained for those held captive in Satan’s domain, was to accept that Jesus was the Messiah and that He had paid the price necessary for eternal life.

The NASB entitles this next section:

Judgment before the Great White Throne.

Observe what happens.

Revelation 20:11-13 CJB Next I saw a great white throne and the One sitting on it. Earth and heaven fled from his presence, and no place was found for them. 12) And I saw the dead, both great and small, standing in front of the throne. Books were opened; and another book was opened, the Book of Life; and the dead were judged from what was written in the books, according to what they had done. 13) The sea gave up the dead in it; and Death and Sh’ol gave up the dead in them; and they were judged, each according to what he had done.

Daniel was told, “Many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake, these to everlasting life, but the others to disgrace and everlasting contempt.”

  • And I saw the dead, both great and small, standing in front of the throne.”

There is no exclusion, as all will awake, but not all will obtain everlasting life with the Father.

  • and death and Sheol gave up the dead in them, and they were judged,”

    As I said, Jesus preached to the captives. What the immediate impact was we do not know.

  • Books were opened.”

    We assume that He is checking the books to see your sins, however, God does not need to write your failures in a book; why?

Because sin, all of it, was forgiven and set aside on the cross. He does, however, scour these books looking for a basis to show those before Him mercy. This idea of looking for something that allows Him to show mercy is the only logical assumption we can make.

What we see in Revelation 20 is the same story as Matthew 25, only told from a different viewpoint.

Allow me to explain.

Jesus, after a horrendous, two-day confrontation in the temple, is now leaving and headed toward the Mount of Olives – his favorite place to retreat and rejuvenate with the Father. The disciples were undone by the last two days, as they too thought He would step up as the Messiah, but He didn’t. Befuddled, they pointed out the magnificence of the temple as they walked past it. Jesus response to this was:

Matthew 24:2 CJB But he answered them, “You see all these? Yes! I tell you, they will be totally destroyed; not a single stone will be left standing!”

A few minutes have passed, and they are now sitting among the Olive trees. Here they came to Him privately and asked,

Matthew 24:3 NASB As He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”

They asked three questions:

    • Tell us, when will these things happen.”

      What things?

    • what will be the sign of Your coming,”

      The Jews, his disciples, had no concept of a rapture of the church. As far as they, they were the church. That attitude changed but not so quickly.

    • And what will be the sign of the end of the age?”

Matthew 24 and 25 is the long answer to those questions. An aspect of that response includes the sheep and goat judgment.

Interesting that the NASB entitles this next cluster of passages in Matthew 25 as:

The Final Judgment

How odd, I thought that the Great White Throne was the final judgment? It is, and this is that experience, from the perspective of Jesus as the loving, gentle Shepherd. In contrast, in the book of Revelation, He appears as the angry God willing to end all rebellion on earth. It will help your understanding to remember that the Revelation is a revelation of Jesus Christ, no matter what he looks like.

Again, allow me to demonstrate.

Matthew 25:31 NASB “But when the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious throne.

  • But when the Son of Man comes in His glory.”

Glory is the Greek word Doxa. An aspect of its meaning is splendor and brightness.

Do not think for a second that when He comes riding the white horse, prepared to do battle, that He will be dressed in anything other than His splendor and brightness.

When will this happen for the last time? At the Great White Throne.

Matthew 25:32 NASB “(A.)All the nations will be gathered before Him; and He will separate (B.) them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats;

If this is the same throne then these are dead people.

We know from Daniel 12:2 that, “Many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake,”

This is not a selective resurrection; everyone will awake.

In Revelation 20 do we see a separation as well?

Yes, as Jesus the shepherd sets apart all those whose names are not found in the books.

Let’s look at Revelation 20 once again, and see what it says.

Revelation 20:12-13 NASB 12) And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds. 13) And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them according to their deeds.

  • And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne,”

While this makes no distinction as to where the dead came from, our biggest and most logical assumption is of the nations; not only those we just witnessed coming against the city of God, but those who have died throughout the thousand years and possibly all time.

  • and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds. 13) And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them according to their deeds.” Revelation 20:13

While the judgmental will send them all to hell, the truth is that God scours all books available looking for some reason to show them mercy.

Revelation 20:14-15 NASB 14) Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. 15) And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

The logical path.

The comparison here to Matthew’s version is that the shepherd focuses on the sheep and their entrance into the kingdom. Revelation 20 tells only us about those whose names were not found in the book of life and were thrown into the lake of fire. There is no discussion about anyone going into the kingdom, and yet both represent the final judgment. Therefore, there must be those who gain entrance, especially if Matthew 25 is the same story. And, the most disturbing for the religious is that there is the possibility that some of those standing there, deceived, ready to kill God, have potentially done some good deed worthy of life. Matthew 25 spelled those things out, for when those granted mercy realize what is happening to them, they ask what they did to deserve mercy. The answer from the shepherd, Yeshua, Jesus, is that they fed Him, visited Him in prison, and gave Him something to drink when He was thirsty. Simple, good deeds.

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“a god whom his fathers did not know” Daniel 11:34-45 , a commentary.


This is the area that has no direct correlation with History. It is also the darkest waters as most assign things like worshipping, “a god whom his fathers did not know,” to the most unusual of theories. If I consider all the influences, most of which are Assyrian, then I can begin to understand what something like the idea of worshipping a god his fathers did not know, a little less difficult. Read on and you will see what I mean.

Antiochus is resisted by the Maccabees who do exploits but are oppressed by him many days.

Daniel 11:34 NASB “Now when they fall they will be granted a little help, and many will join with them in hypocrisy.

  • Now when they fall they will be granted a little help.”

Since we understand that the price to be paid for coming to the Lord during the last days is ultimately death, help can only be fleeting. I cannot begin to imagine what a little help will look like, but the implications are that it is momentary and temporary.

  • and many will join with them in hypocrisy.”

Hypocrisy, as defined in the Hebrew, describes uncertain people on treacherous paths of false prophets (Jer_23:12) and hated enemies.

There two possibilities I see here.

  • Islam has the right to lie. They can and will play the role of a follower in order to gain an advantage in Jihad.
  • The other is help coming from people that really aren’t going to stick around. In either case, you will probably die.

Jeremiah 23:12 NASB “Therefore their way will be like slippery paths to them, They will be driven away into the gloom and fall down in it; For I will bring calamity upon them, The year of their punishment,” declares the LORD.

Daniel 11:35 CJB Even some of those with discernment will stumble so that some of them will be refined, purified and cleansed for an end yet to come at the designated time.

  • Even some of those with discernment will stumble.”

    We always want the good guy to win, however, that is not always the case, and there is a reason why.

  • so that some of them will be refined, purified and cleansed

    What is the reason for the “great tribulation”? It is God’s final punishment of: Israel, for their rejection of Him, and it is a punishment of the world for accosting his people and their rejection of Him.

    If Israel has rejected Him all these years, is it possible that God is looking for a method of redemption, instead of a final punishment, as some believe? What if you found out that God’s character and nature were mercy and love?

 

  • for an end yet to come at the designated time.

What is the end?
Truly, it can only be the Great White Throne judgment. This event shows up in two places; one in the Revelation and the other in Matthew 25 where we see the sheep and the goats. In Revelation Jesus is played out before us as what appears to be an angry God. We get that impression for all we see is the finality of His judgment as many are sent to the lake of fire, a place that was only designed for Satan and his mutinous crew.

 

In Matthew’s account, Jesus is the gentle shepherd and we primarily focus on the sheep and their reward. In either case, you become aware of books along with the book of life. I surmise that God scours those books looking desperately for some reason to show those standing before Him mercy.

The time of the vision.

The character of “the king” of the north (Daniel 7:25 and 8:25.)

Daniel 11:36 CJB “The king will do as he pleases. He will exalt himself and consider himself greater than any god, and he will utter monstrous blasphemies against the God of gods. He will prosper only until the period of wrath is over, for what has been determined must take place.

  • The king will do as he pleases”

    What permits such actions? An overwhelming fear; support of loyal troops; a lack of oversight.
    So, is that typical? Perhaps not, but not impossible.

  • He will exalt himself and consider himself greater than any god, and he will utter monstrous blasphemies against the God of gods”

    It seems that many people think this way. However, this is much more serious than the standard blasphemies we speak. The entity that does this specific thing is the Antichrist.

    2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 CJB Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way. For the Day will not come until after the Apostasy has come and the man who separates himself from Torah has been revealed, the one destined for doom. 4) He will oppose himself to everything that people call a god or make an object of worship; he will put himself above them all, so that he will sit in the Temple of God and proclaim that he himself is God.

  • He will prosper only until the period of wrath is over, for what has been determined must take place.”

    Revelation 11:18 NASB “And the nations were enraged, and Your wrath came, and the time came for the dead to be judged, and the time to reward Your bond-servants the prophets and the saints and those who fear Your name, the small and the great, and to destroy those who destroy the earth.”


    The determined time is his end.

Revelation 19:20 NASB And the beast was seized, and with him the false prophet who performed the signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image; these two were thrown alive into the lake of fire which burns with brimstone.

Daniel 11:37 NASB “He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers or for the desire of women, nor will he show regard for any other god; for he will magnify himself above them all.

  • He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers”

Antiochus’s Seleucid predecessors had elevated the god Apollo, while the Ptolemies had shown a preference for Adonis (possibly referred to here as the one desired by women). Antiochus neglects them (though by no means rejects them) in favor of Olympian Zeus. The fact that he designated himself as God Manifest on his coins is sufficient to explain the comment in this verse. IVPBBC

  • or for the desire of women”

    Based on this, some Bible scholars believe that the Antichrist will be of Jewish descent, and perhaps will also be a homosexual. These things may not be popularly known about the man, but they may be true nonetheless. But many commentators believe that the desire of women refers to Jesus, in that all women desired the honor of bearing the Messiah and understanding “desire” as it is used in Hag_2:7. Seeing the desire of women as Jesus makes the most sense in light of the flow of context. David Guzik’s Enduring Word Commentary

Daniel 11:38 NASB “But instead he will honor a god of fortresses, a god whom his fathers did not know; he will honor him with gold, silver, costly stones and treasures.

  • But instead he will honor a god of fortresses, a god whom his fathers did not know;”

    The Antichrist will take and hold power with military might and the shrewd use of great riches.” Guzik

Certainly, Islam is and have been, the people of the sword, so violence is a way of life to them. But where are the fortresses? The fortresses seem to be more in their Mosques and run by the Caliphates.

Daniel 11:39 NASB “He will take action against the strongest of fortresses with the help of a foreign god; he will give great honor to those who acknowledge him and will cause them to rule over the many, and will parcel out land for a price.

The following is from the Albert Barnes’ Notes on the Bible

Thus shall he do in, the most strong holds – Margin, “fortresses of munitions.” The reference is to strongly fortified places; of those places which had been made strong for purposes of defense. The idea is, that he would carry on his purposes against these places, as it were, under the auspices of this strange god. It was a fact, that in his wars Antiochus came into possession of the strong places, or the fortified towns of the nations which he attacked – Jerusalem, Sidon, Peluslum, Memphis – then among the strongest places in the world.

But we are looking forward to an end time scenario and there few fortresses anymore. Oh, I am not excluding the idea that there are military bases, nor am I discounting countries, like Russia and Iran, that seem to operate as though they were fortresses unto themselves.

  • with the help of a foreign god”

    A foreign god whom his fathers did not acknowledge;” We have already spoken about how Antiochus IV ignored the gods of his family and brought in Zeus from the Romans. But, we are looking forward and need to look outside the box. Who or what is the god of Islam? Allah. This would certainly push this person outside the realm of his father’s gods.

  • he will give great honor to those who acknowledge him and will cause them to rule over the many”

While in the short term, “the conquests of Antiochus would seem to be a setting up of the dominion of these gods over the lands which he subdued.” But in the long term, Islam demands submission to Allah. 

And shall divide the land for gain – “The reference here is, probably, to the holy land, and the idea is that it would be partitioned out among his followers for a price, or with a view to gain; that is, perhaps, that it would be “farmed out” for the purpose of raising revenue, and that with this view, as often occurred, it would be set up for sale to the highest bidder. This was a common way of raising revenue, by “farming out” a conquered province; that is, by disposing of the privilege of raising a revenue in it to the one who would offer most for it, and the consequence was, that it gave rise to vast rapacity in extorting funds from the people. Compare 1 Macc. 3:35, 36, where, speaking of Lysias, whom Antiochus had “set to oversee the affairs of the king from the river Euphrates unto the borders of Egypt,” it is said of Antiochus that he “gave him (Lysias) charge of all things that he would have done, as also concerning them that dwelt in Judea and Jerusalem: to wit, that he should send an army against them, to destroy and root out the strength of Israel, and the remnant of Jerusalem, and to take away their memorial from that place; and that he should place strangers in all their quarters, ‘and divide their land by lot. ‘“

The final battles of Daniel 11:40-45

There is no known historical sequence corresponding to that which is laid out in these verses. Antiochus IV was killed in battle in Persia in December 164. Many interpreters of Daniel consider this section (perhaps starting as early as v. Dan_11:36) to contain a reference to a much more distant future.

War between Syria (north) and Egypt (south) at the end time: Antichrist (Syria, North) is victorious over Egypt (south) and many countries up to the middle of Daniel’s seventieth week when the “eighth” or Revived Grecian Empire is formed. (Dan 7:24; 8:23-25; Rev 11:7; 13:1-18; 16:10; 17:3, 8-14, 16-17; 19:19-21)

Daniel 11:40 NASB “At the end time the king of the South will collide with him, and the king of the North will storm against him with chariots, with horsemen, and with many ships; and he will enter countries, overflow them and pass through.

  • At the end time, the king of the South will collide with him”

These kings are to be understood in reference to the times of which the prophet speaks. While the kingdoms of Egypt and Syria were subsisting, the king of the south and the north applied to them exclusively: but they did not exist at the time of which the prophet speaks; therefore other southern and northern powers must be sought. These we may find in the Saracens, who were of the Arabians, who came from the south, headed by the false prophet Mohammed, who pushed at him – made war on the Greek emperor Heraclius, and with amazing rapidity deprived him of Egypt, Syria, and many of his finest provinces. [Adam Clarke]

  • and the king of the North will storm against him with chariots, with horsemen, and with many ships”

Pastor Dave Guzik says, “The Turks, who were originally Scythians, seized on the remains of the Greek empire; and in process of time rendered themselves masters of the whole. They are represented as coming like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen; their armies being chiefly composed of cavalry.”

An aspect we need to remind ourselves of is that the Bible is Israel and Middle-east centric. With Jerusalem as the center then north passes straight through Aleppo Syria, Ankara Turkey, and finally through Moscow Russia. It is most likely that Turkey is the focus here, but I am not sure that Turkey has the naval power to fulfill the many ships aspect.

  • and he will enter countries, overflow them and pass through.”

    Having both the North and the South come against him would under normal circumstances mean the end for most. The word overflow also carries the meanings of rinsed, wash away, and to overwhelm. Here I am talking about the possibilities that this is Muslim leader and that might be, but I do not think it is in the strictest sense. Moscow is Russian, and, even though there is a Muslim influence, the animosity is great. Turkey, on the other hand, is not only Islamic but their leader, Erdogan Princip, thinks of himself as the last Mahdi, potentially filling the role of the Antichrist. Should the Muslim world throw itself behind him, there would be little to stand in his way.

New adversaries in the north and east in the middle of the week after he has conquered and acquired control of the ten kingdoms of Revised Rome. He conquers these in the last three and a half years and then brings them into Palestine to destroy Israel as he intended to do in the middle of the week when he broke the covenant with them and planted his tabernacle in the glorious holy mountain.

Daniel 11:41 NASB “He will also enter the Beautiful Land, and many countries will fall, but these will be rescued out of his hand: Edom, Moab and the foremost of the sons of Ammon.

  • He will also enter the Beautiful Land, and many countries will fall”

Any student of end times events understands that the beast/antichrist persona will enter Jerusalem. What we don’t seem to see is that other countries will fall as well. It truly seems that we are seeing prophecy played out before our eyes as several countries in the Middle East have had their leaders taken down and their countries left in piles of rubble. Syria is an ongoing process as we speak. Just because many of us live in the United States of America we think we will be secure. I no longer think that will be the case.

  • but these will be rescued out of his hand: Edom, Moab and the foremost of the sons of Ammon.”

    Why? That is a good question but it requires background knowledge and the prophetic look into the future. If we start with the fact that Edom was/is the eldest son of Isaac, that in itself answers nothing pertaining to the question as to why God will rescue them. Perhaps the answer is somewhat buried and requires diligence to sort it out.

    • The Prophet Isaiah tells us,

      Isaiah 11:14-15 NET. They will swoop down on the Philistine hills to the west; together they will loot the people of the east. They will take over Edom and Moab, and the Ammonites will be their subjects. 15) The LORD will divide the gulf of the Egyptian Sea; he will wave his hand over the Euphrates River and send a strong wind, he will turn it into seven dried-up streams, and enable them to walk across in their sandals.

      They,” in this passage, seems to be Judah. Judah was the Northern kingdom and seemed to be the bad seed. This is where we find King Ahab and his wife Jezebel. She also plays a significant role in end times events, as her name is associated with the Harlot (a rather surreal socio-economic empire) that rides the beast.

      Revelation 17:3 Moffatt NT 3) So he bore me away rapt in the Spirit to the desert, and I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet Beast covered with blasphemous titles; it had seven heads and ten horns.

       

      Revelation 17:16 MKJV and the ten horns which you saw on the beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her desolate and naked. And they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire.

      So what we can ascertain from all this, is that God deems Edom, Moab, and the Ammonites to have been punished enough, and releases them from punishment.

Daniel 11:42 MKJV And he shall stretch out his hand on the lands. And the land of Egypt shall not escape.

  • He, of course, is this person. While Antiochus Epiphanes may have done this it applies to the near future as well. Egypt will not escape.

Ezekiel 29:14-15 NASB “I will turn the fortunes of Egypt and make them return to the land of Pathros, to the land of their origin, and there they will be a lowly kingdom. 15) “It will be the lowest of the kingdoms, and it will never again lift itself up above the nations. And I will make them so small that they will not rule over the nations.

Daniel 11:43 CJB he will control the treasures of gold and silver, as well as everything else in Egypt of value. Put and Ethiopia will be subject to him.

We already went over Daniel 11:28 but note how it says, “Then the king of the north will return to his own land with great wealth;” CJB

Albert Barnes commentary states, “Enriched with the spoils of Egypt. Having taken Memphis, and the fairest portions of Egypt, he would, of course, carry great wealth to his own country on his return. Thus it is said in 1 Macc. 1:19: “Thus they got the strong cities in the land of Egypt, and he took the spoils thereof.”

Sadly, because they are Apocryphal books, we ignore the historical aspects of books like 1Maccabees, which confirms that this person spoils the strong cities of the land of Egypt. This includes Chad, Sudan, Somalia, Lybia, Nigeria, and anything along the northern coast of Africa.

Daniel 11:44 CJB However, news from the east and north will frighten him so that he moves out in great fury to ruin and completely do away with many.

  • Everything we have seen so far points to a ruler in his attempts at global domination, but even that seems to evade him.

  • Extend a line to the farthest eastern coastlands and you will be in China. Since China is not Muslim friendly perhaps this plays a role.

  • Merely because his goal is to do away with many, does not mean he will be successful.

Daniel 11:45 CJB Finally, when he pitches the tents of his palace between the seas and the mountain of the holy Glory, he will come to his end, with no one to help him.

  • Tents, or as the KJV translates it, tabernacles. It is the Hebrew word ‘ôhel and means a tent (as clearly conspicuous from a distance.)

  • of his palace – ’appeḏen: A masculine noun indicating tent structure, a tented palace, pavilion.

    What can I ascertain from this?

    • He is establishing a palace.

    • It, at this point, is temporary.

    • It is meant to be seen, either that or, he is attempting to be an affront to God.

    • And, that this is his last resting place on earth.

      How do I know that?

  • he will come to his end, with no one to help him.”

    The next thing we see is Christ returning with His saints to slaughter everyone that chooses to fight against Him. The NASB entitles this explanatory section of the Bible, The Marriage Supper of the Lamb.

    The epic battle begins in Revelation 19:6 and in Revelation 19:9 the speaker says to John the beloved, “Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.”

    Verse 19:11 initiates the Rider on the white horse and there is little doubt that we are seeing Jesus upon this horse. Verse 13 indicates that His name is called, The Word of God.

    In verse 14 He is followed by the armies of Heaven, also riding on white horses.

    These have one purpose, which we find in verse 15: “That He may strike down the nations, and He will rule them with a rod of iron; and He treads the wine press of the fierce wrath of God, the Almighty.

      • Revelation 19:19-21 NASB 19) And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies assembled to make war against Him who sat on the horse and against His army. 20) And the beast was seized, and with him, the false prophet who performed the signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image; these two were thrown alive into the lake of fire which burns with brimstone. 21) And the rest were killed with the sword which came from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse, and all the birds were filled with their flesh.

And thus ends chapter 11, This idea of a far distant future is not so far fetched as Daniel chapter 12 continues on with, “Now at that time Michael, the great prince who stands guard over the sons of your people, will arise. And there will be a time of distress such as never occurred since there was a nation until that time; and at that time your people, everyone who is found written in the book, will be rescued.” NASB

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Are there female angels? A brief interlude from the Daniel commentaries.


emale Angels? Are you serious?

A brother recently shared with us an occurrence where he told someone that there were female angels, and he used this passage Zechariah 5:9 to prove his statement.

Zechariah 5:9 NASB Then I lifted up my eyes and looked, and there two women were coming out with the wind in their wings; and they had wings like the wings of a stork, and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heavens.

I could not recall an instance where I had seen a female angel described in scripture. Several of us read the passage and our immediate response, in general, was, sounds interesting, or, I had no idea.

Upon closer examination of the passage, “ two women were coming out with the wind in their wings; and they had wings like the wings of a stork

  • The word women is the Hebrew word ishshah; a word never used of angels. It is however, overwhelmingly used to describe a wife. Since we know these are not meant to be seen as wives, then they are merely seen as women.

    ishshah (61a); from an unused word; woman, wife, female: – adulteress *(2), any woman.

    From the Word Study Dictionary: While this word predominantly means woman or wife, it is further used in various ways: those able to bear children (Gen_18:11); a widow (Ruth_4:5; 1Sa_27:3); an adulteress (Pro_6:26; Pro_7:5); female children (Num_31:18); or female animals (Gen_7:2).

    The instances where the word ishshah is translated to adulteress are minimal and not worthy of consideration. There is no assignment of evil, or other communication about them, so let’s just allow them to carry the basket with a woman in it, without excess speculation, to its destination.

  • The word not used is mal’âk, a Hebrew word used to define an angel. Look up the word angel, and you will never find it in relation to this incident.

    Hebrew – mal’âk/mal-awk’ From an unused root meaning to dispatch as a deputy; a messenger;

  • If you examine the idea of stork wings, you find that the concept is more like a hanging piece of cloth or cape being lifted, perhaps by the women themselves.

    The Hebrew word is kânâph/ kaw-nawf’ and means just an edge or extremity; (of a garment or bed clothing) a flap.

    Angels, by-the-way, have never been seen with wings.

    What does the verse say? “and they had wings like the wings of a stork.” Since we now know that the word could easily say, they had extremities to their garments like the wings of a stork; then the imagery should convey that like the seamless robes many wore, these women too had a robe like garment on, which hung from their arms.


    The IVPBB Commentary tells us this: women with wings. In the Old Testament angels are not female and are not portrayed with wings (though in Dan_9:21 Gabriel perhaps comes in swift flight; but see comment there). In Ugaritic literature Baal’s sister, Anat, is portrayed with wings. In Mesopotamian art winged creatures are generally either protective genies or demons. The goddess Ishtar is also occasionally portrayed with wings. Two winged female genies are portrayed flanking a stylized tree in a relief from the ninth century.

  • there two women were coming out”

Many of the commentaries implied that the woman was being carried off to her punishment. That would make the two women conveyors of judgment, and they do not do that. Setting the woman on a pedestal, a place of momentary dignity, is just the opposite of punishment. We, make the assumption that the woman is left in the basket, but there is nothing that indicates she stays there. Because the angel seems to slam the lead lid back down upon her, you might correctly assume some hostility with this persona. Will this woman in the basket be judged? Absolutely; we have gathered the association of this woman with Babylon and the harlot of Revelation, and, there is no doubt that Babylon, the spiritual entity, also known as the harlot, is severely judged. You need to understand that the woman in the basket is representative of something much more encompassing the attractiveness of a woman, this is the global desire that attempts to entrap and pull us away from God continually.

Will this woman in the basket be judged? Absolutely; we have gathered the association of this woman with Babylon and the harlot of Revelation, and, there is no doubt that Babylon, the spiritual entity, also known as the harlot, is severely judged. You need to understand that the woman in the basket is representative of something much more encompassing the attractiveness of a woman, this is the global desire that attempts to entrap and pull us away from God continually.

Since we have the angels own words to help with this matter, then what did the Angel say the woman was?

Zechariah 5:5-8 NASB Then the angel who was speaking with me went out and said to me, “Lift up now your eyes and see what this is going forth.” 6) I said, “What is it?” And he said, “This is the ephah going forth.” Again he said, “This is their appearance in all the land 7) (and behold, a lead cover was lifted up); and this is a woman sitting inside the ephah.” 8) Then he said, “This is Wickedness!” And he threw her down into the middle of the ephah and cast the lead weight on its opening.

Notice that the angel shows no love nor respect for the entity inside the basket. No human being should be treated like that, and, we have an understanding of God’s nature and character when we read:

Matthew 18:14 NASB “So it is not the will of your Father who is in heaven that one of these little ones perish.

2 Peter 3:9 NASB The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.

So it is safe to assume that God is not sending a human off to their destruction without judgment. Another factor that gives us clarity is the implications that this is a representation.

Depending on the translation you also get lawlessness, evil, and sin. Several translations even tell you, “this represents …” Since we are made aware that it looks like a woman, then there is an associated attractiveness or even a seduction to this evil.

The word translated as evil, wicked or lawless is the Hebrew word rish‛âh and means wrong (especially moral): – fault, wickedly (-ness).

Allowing scripture to interpret scripture I later returned to this subject and looked at the entirety of chapter five. I had noticed that the chapter speaks of:

  • a woman in a basket with a lead lid.

    Zechariah 5:11 NASB Then he said to me, “To build a temple for her in the land of Shinar; and when it is prepared, she will be set there on her own pedestal.”

I wanted to find out who is this woman is who having a temple built for her in the plain of Shinar,

Shinar, why does that sound familiar?

Genesis 10:8-11 NASB Now Cush became the father of Nimrod; he became a mighty one on the earth. 9) He was a mighty hunter before the LORD; therefore it is said, “Like Nimrod a mighty hunter before the LORD.” 10) The beginning of his kingdom was Babel and Erech and Accad and Calneh, in the land of Shinar. 11) From that land he went forth into Assyria, and built Nineveh and Rehoboth-Ir and Calah,

What we have is a reliable link to Babylon of end times.

There is nothing good associated with Shinar at this point. You should have noted two other names; Babel, and Nineveh. Yes, this was the town the prophet Jonah was sent to with a message of repent or be destroyed. If you know the story, then you know Jonah wanted these people to die, but he also knew God would show them mercy.

Why such hatred toward a people? Because Israel had suffered tremendous harm at the hands of the Ninevehites/Assyrians, and Jonah, like so many others, carried an intense hatred and prejudiced against them. God, at least for a short period, had other plans; and, when Nineveh as a whole repented, God, for a time, relented on His judgment. Take the time to read the four chapters of Jonah. The last one finds Jonah, lying under gourd plant that has withered, wishing he was dead. When God speaks to Jonah, He explains that mercy is His to show, regardless of how Jonah feels about it.

The Life Application Study Bible commentary has a rather large paragraph about this, but only one small aspect makes any sense. It goes like this, “The woman in a basket was carried away “to the land of Babylonia,” which had become a symbol for the center of world idolatry and wickedness.”

      • Babel and Babylon are the same places. With certainty, the woman and Babylon have taken on a spiritual meaning.

Zechariah 5:11 And I am going to piece this to together from several version so that you can understand the ramifications.

(AMP) “And he said to me, To the land of Shinar [Babylonia] to build it a house,”

        • Consider this designation for a moment. When shown to the prophet, he sees a woman in a basket. However, he is told, “this is evil!

          And, she will be set upon a pedestal.

          (BBE)And he said to me, To make a house for her in the land of Shinar: and they will make a place ready, and put her there in the place which is hers.

          What could that mean? If this is a fallen angel, then it apparently has a throne as well.

          (GNB) He answered, “To Babylonia, where they will build a temple for it. When the temple is finished, the basket will be placed there to be worshiped.

          Considering that there is an association with Babylon, then, in what ways do we, the world, worship this harlot?
          The Good News Bible translation triggers off quick thoughts, as the entire world, it seems, will be forced to worship the image of the beast.

          Revelation 17:1 NASB Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and spoke with me, saying, “Come here, I will show you the judgment of the great harlot who sits on many waters,

          Note the word sits. The woman that Zechariah saw in the basket is also seated; is this just a coincidence? I don’t think so.

          Revelation 14:8 NASB And another angel, a second one, followed, saying, “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great, she who has made all the nations drink of the wine of the passion of her immorality.”

          Both of these references assign some lawlessness or evil to a feminine characterization. Revelation 14:8 intertwines the harlot not only with Babylon (what a coincidence) but her immorality as well. Because it uses the term passion, we are led to believe that there is a seductiveness.

          Zechariah 5:5-8 NASB Then the angel who was speaking with me went out and said to me, “Lift up now your eyes and see what this is going forth.” 6) I said, “What is it?” And he said, “This is the ephah going forth.” Again he said, “This is their appearance in all the land 7) (and behold, a lead cover was lifted up); and this is a woman sitting inside the ephah.” 8) Then he said, “This is Wickedness!” And he threw her down into the middle of the ephah and cast the lead weight on its opening.

Look at verse six from the Message version:

Zechariah 5:6 MSG I said, “What in the world is that?” He said, “This is a bushel basket on a journey. It holds the sin of everyone, everywhere.

While I can grasp the idea that it contains the sin of everyone; our sins are completely characterized by one person – this woman referred to as “it.” However, it is not, at this moment in Scripture, directed at everyone. It is expressly directed at Israel; And, we know this because it says in Zechariah 5:6, “This is their appearance in all the land.” Can the world be enticed and therefore included? Absolutely. We are all taken in by the abominations of the earth. You know that Satan offered Jesus the kingdoms of this world and their glory. Pursue this in Matthew 4. Jesus responded to Satan with, “It is written,..” Israel, being the focus and center of God’s attention, is God’s focus in the statement, “This is their appearance in all the land.”

What we may be seeing here is the representation of the Harlot, the Mother of Harlots.

Revelation 17:5-6 NASB and on her forehead a name was written, a mystery, “BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.” 6) And I saw the woman drunk with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus. When I saw her, I wondered greatly.

Note how it describes Babylon as the mother of harlots, AND of the abominations of the earth.

Revelation 18:2 NASB And he cried out with a mighty voice, saying, “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great! She has become a dwelling place of demons and a prison of every unclean spirit, and a prison of every unclean and hateful bird.

We understand that a harlot entices you to give up your virginity, your dignity, destroy your marriage, and end your relationship with important and vital people in your life, like the wife; God. Now, look at the other descriptives: Babylon, a spiritual entity, is the woman drunk with the blood of saints and witnesses of Jesus. Isn’t it clear that this harlot is a murderer? It is also the dwelling place of demons and a prison of every unclean spirit.

Revelation 18 concludes with Babylon, the great city, being thrown down with violence and not be found any longer. In reality, that throwing down, physically, happened not that long after perhaps Darius. Wikipedia tells us: It has been estimated that Babylon was the largest city in the world from c. 1770 to 1670 BC, and again between c. 612 and 320 BC. With some solid dates, we can associate the destruction of Babylon with the Alexandrian empire.

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Daniel Chapter 11, The king of the North sets his heart to break his covenant. Verses 28-33.


Two things I need to tell you.

  1. I am not as dry as these bible study notes might convey. I cannot tolerate sitting in some boring service, therefore, I refuse to be boring. I am animated; wave my hands around as I explain God’s word, and I make unusual faces to emphasize what I believe to be God’s frustration at the world. (While God may well get frustrated, He has no expectation of our performance, therefore, we are not held to some unreachable moral standard – Christ has redeemed us from the law. As followers of Christ, we have merely accepted the life He granted us through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.)

Sinners, as the religious crowd likes to call them, are simply those outside of an intimate relationship with the Father, and yet, they are just as forgiven as the believer. What then is the difference? Relationship. Well now, wait a minute. One might say, I sit with those prune faces (that includes me) in church, and their faces show no life, this life in Christ of which we speak. I get that and here is why I think this is a common problem. Church leadership teaches sin. On the whole, we focus on how to backslide, or, we preach some convicting sermon on the evils of drink; when sin is nothing more than missing the bullseye of a target. Suppose that target is a long way off; everything we do and have interactions with is analogous to having the wind move you, or some distraction pulls you off target. Having shot in competitive archery, some 40+ years ago, I can completely understand the number of things that can make you miss the bullseye that now looks like an American dime at this distance. I realize this seems like I am being simplistic, but I am not exaggerating when I tell you that I have sat through this type of teaching for years now.

Well now, wait a minute. One might say, I sit with those prune faces (that includes me) in church, and their faces show no life – this life in Christ of which we speak. I get that and here is why I think this is a common problem. Church leadership teaches sin. On the whole, we focus on how to backslide, or, we preach some convicting sermon on the evils of drink. This teaching can be a problem as we walk away more adept in the knowledge of sin than of who we are in Christ.  Sin, on the other hand, is nothing more than missing the bullseye of a target. Now suppose that target is a very long way off; how difficult is it to hit a bullseye that seems no bigger than a dime. Everything we do and have interactions with is analogous to having the wind move you, or some distraction that pulls you off target. Having shot in competitive archery, some 40+ years ago, I completely understand the number of things that can make you miss the bullseye that now looks like an American dime at this distance. I realize this seems like I am being simplistic, but I am not exaggerating when I tell you that I have sat through sin teachings for years.

2. I have, over the last few years, come to understand what Islam teaches. I understand that many believe that the Mahdi is coming. It is easy to get wrapped up in the hatred such disturbed beliefs seem to deserve. Our difficulty, as followers of Christ, is to stay focused and not hate. On the optimistic side, many Muslims are coming to the Lord because they are having dreams in which Jesus shows up. The most recent I heard is that Jesus stands at the end of a bridge and bids them to come. Peculiar how they recognize Jesus having never seen Him; but then, how many of us have ever seen Him. The point of this is that one of the grandsons, asked me today, what country would I like to visit? I thought about for a couple of seconds, and told him, that if you had asked me that same question two or three years ago, my answer would have been Paris – for the beauty and romance; Italy – because its charm and cuisine; Spain – to take in the pageantry. There were so many places that ran through my mind, that because of pictures and travel logs, I have longed to go there. But, because of immigrants, looting, raping and pillaging the streets of virtually all of these cities, I would no longer feel safe there. Sadly, I espoused this information, out loud, to my young grandson as we walked up to the front of the warehouse store. My wife immediately admonished me to watch what I say. I did not consider that I was probably creating a fear in the boy as well, but thought about the possibility of a physical altercation I might have, as many Muslims shop there.

No, I have never had a problem like many of you are experiencing, but our turn, here in America, will come. I used to prophesy this to the church about ten years ago. For doing so I was effectively kicked out. Only a fool would look at the changes America has experienced and not see the looting, raping and pillaging, many of you are experiencing coming to America. The bottom line is that I have to fight against the prejudices I so easily fall into.

One of the things that I hear in my spirit, frequently, is Jesus response to the disciples as they asked Him, do you want us to call down fire on them? Depending on the preacher, you can get several types explanations for the rebuke Jesus gave them. I believe His come back was filled with wisdom and correction, for He said in Luke 9:54-56 NASB .. “You do not know what kind of spirit you are of;  for the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives, but to save them.”…

I do not write this to tell you how to deal with the violence many of you are surrounded with on a daily basis. I am telling you, that we, as followers of Christ, live in grace. If you try to perform some act of violence like I am aware of on my wife, I will react. I would love it if God gave me the green light to call fire down on those who are acting out, but He doesn’t.

Will a time in which He does grant the green light come? Absolutely, and it is right after the rapture of the church. Sadly, the church and grace will be gone, but the day of the prophet of the highest God will be back in force. Elijah called fire down on two separate groups of one hundred troops. Look this up 1Kings chapter one.

With that exposure to the inner struggles I have, I return to the commentary at hand.

Antiochus returns in glory and victory and sets his heart to break his Jewish covenant and plunder Palestine.

Daniel 11:28 CJB Then the king of the north will return to his own land with great wealth; with his heart set against the holy covenant, he will take action and then return home.

  • That is, Antiochus, with the spoils of Egypt, and the gifts and presents he had received there; so the author of the first book of Maccabees says, [John Gill]

set against the holy covenant. Roman, Greek and Jewish sources differ with regards to the details at this point.

There is no question that on his return from Egypt, Antiochus raided the temple treasury, most likely to secure additional funds for his continuing military activities. The sources disagree about whether this incident took place after the First Egyptian War (September 169) or after the Second. IVPBBC

And his heart shall be against the holy covenant; not the covenant he had made with Ptolemy, which was a fraudulent one; but the covenant between God and the Jews; whereby they became a distinct and peculiar people, having a religion, laws, and ordinances, different from all others; for which reason they were hated by other nations, and particularly by Antiochus; and his heart was the more enraged against them at this time, for the following reason; a false rumour being spread in Judea that Antiochus was dead, Jason took the opportunity to recover the office of high priest from his brother Menelaus; and, with a thousand men, took the city of Jerusalem, drove his brother into the castle, and slew many he took for his enemies. Antiochus, hearing of this, concluded the whole nation of the Jews had revolted from him; and therefore took Judea in his way from Egypt, in order to suppress this rebellion; in the Apocrypha: John Gill’s Exposition of the Bible

Antiochus leads a second expedition into Egypt but is turned back by a mandate from Rome in league with Cyprus. He then turns against the Jews and many apostate Jews help him to pollute the temple altar and doing away with Jewish sacrifices.

Daniel 11:29 AMPC+ At the time appointed [God’s own time] he shall return and come into the South, but it shall not be successful as were the former invasions [of Egypt].

Second Egyptian War, 168. In the spring of 168, Antiochus again had to besiege Memphis, and he did so successfully, taking control of lower Egypt. As he again prepared to lay siege against a weakened Alexandria, he actually had himself crowned king of Egypt. But there was a difference this time. Egypt had appealed to Rome for help, and their ships arrived as he approached Alexandria. Roman consul Gaius Popillius Laenas met him by the walls of Alexandria and commanded Antiochus to leave Egypt. When Antiochus replied that he had to consult with his advisors, the Roman consul drew a circle in the dirt around the king and insisted that he give his answer before stepping out of the circle. A humiliated Antiochus conceded to Roman authority and straggled toward home looking for a way to vent his misery. This was probably in July 168. IVPBBC

Daniel 11:30 CJB because ships from Kittim will come against him so that his courage will fail him. Then, in retreat, he will take furious action against the holy covenant, again showing favor to those who abandon the holy covenant.

  • because ships from Kittim will come against him”

    this is modern day Cyprus

    Why Kittim? The island country of Cyprus is small, split between the Greeks and the Turks, and it is a known point for the trafficking of drugs and female sex slaves. Why then would it be a modern source of trouble? Perhaps a quick dip into Biblical genealogy can give us a clue.

    Genesis 10:1-4 NET. This is the account of Noah’s sons Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Sons were born to them after the flood. The sons of Japheth were Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, and Tiras. 3) The sons of Gomer were Askenaz, Riphath, and Togarmah. 4) The sons of Javan were Elishah, Tarshish, the Kittim, and the Dodanim.

    Balaam, when pushed by Balak the son of Zippor – The comparison of Numbers 22:4 with Numbers 21:26 suggests that Balak was not the hereditary king but a Midianite, and that a change of dynasty had taken place.

    Balaam the son of Beor was from the first a worshipper in some sort of the true God; and had learned some elements of pure and true religion in his home in the far East, the cradle of the ancestors of Israel. But though prophesying, doubtless even before the ambassadors of Balak came to him, in the name of the true God, yet prophecy was still to him as before a mere business, not a religion.

    Numbers 24:23-25 NET. Then he uttered this oracle: “O, who will survive when God does this! 24) Ships will come from the coast of Kittim, and will afflict Asshur, and will afflict Eber, and he will also perish forever.” 25) Balaam got up and departed and returned to his home, and Balak also went his way.

    • Regardless of the insignificance of Kittim/Cyprus, or the national allegiance, God has spoken prophetically that destruction will come upon Eber and Asshur will be afflicted, all launched from the shores of Kittim.

    • so that his courage will fail him.”

      Your courage failing you is not so tangible and has more of an internal effect. The word used here – כאה kâ’âh – means, properly, to become faint-hearted; to be frightened; to be dejected, sad, humbled, Job_30:8; Eze_13:22; Psa_109:16. The meaning here is, that he became dispirited, dejected, cast down, and abandoned his purpose.
      Because God and the prophetic, operates on a principle of pattern, then it is highly probable that we can expect this pattern once again. We may be looking Antiochus Epiphanes at the moment, but that will not be his name in the future.

  • Then, in retreat, he will take furious action against the holy covenant, again showing favor to those who abandon the holy covenant.”

    For a second time (cf. Dan_11:28) Antiochus took out his frustration on the Jews, the city of Jerusalem, and their temple. He vented his fury against the holy covenant, the entire Mosaic system (cf. Dan_11:28), favoring any renegade Jews who turned to help him (cf. Dan_11:32). He desecrated the temple and abolished the daily sacrifice.
    Antiochus sent his general Apollonius with 22,000 soldiers into Jerusalem on what was purported to be a peace mission. But they attacked Jerusalem on the Sabbath, killed many people, took many women and children as slaves, and plundered and burned the city.

Daniel 11:31 CJB Armed forces will come at his order and profane the sanctuary and fortress. They will abolish the daily burnt offering and set up the abomination that causes desolation.

  • desecration of the sanctuary.

    According to the book of Maccabees, an individual named Geron was sent by Antiochus to dismantle Jewish religious practice. It is possible that the Syrian military contingent, seeking accommodation for their own worship practice, was partially responsible for some of the changes described in the temple. In December 167 a systematic program of instituting Greek religious practices at the expense of Jewish ones began in earnest. The sacrificial system and the Sabbath and festival observances were halted. Worship sites were set up around the country and circumcision was forbidden. The temple was consecrated to Zeus and became a center of polytheism and prostitution. IVPBBC

  • the abomination of desolation.

    In seeking to exterminate Judaism and to Hellenize the Jews, Antiochus IV forbade the Jews to follow their religious practices (including their festivals and circumcision), and commanded that copies of the Law be burned. Then he set up the abomination that causes desolation. In this culminating act he erected on December 16, 167 b.c. an altar to Zeus on the altar of burnt offering outside the temple, and had a pig offered on the altar. The Bible Knowledge Commentary

Daniel 11:32 NET. Then with smooth words, he will defile those who have rejected the covenant. But the people who are loyal to their God will act valiantly.

  • Then with smooth words, he will defile those who have rejected the covenant.”

2 Chronicles 24:17 NET. 17) After Jehoiada died, the officials of Judah visited the king and declared their loyalty to him. The king listened to their advice.

The IVPBBC tells us, “There were many Jews who favored the Hellenization process and therefore, if promised personal benefit, would gladly side with the new policies. Foremost among these was Menelaus, the high priest, who was totally dependent on Antiochus for his lucrative office.”

We are trying to get a handle on what it is to be defiled, especially after rejecting the covenant. To begin with let’s look at alternate words:

  • pervert; seduce;

  • deceitfully dissemble;

  • those who violate the covenant;

  • those who have already abandoned their religion;

  • act wickedly toward the covenant

So, as you can see it is a broad spectrum of dispassionate acts.

those who act H7561 wickedly H7561 – rasha/raw-shah’ – A primitive root; to be (causatively do or declare) wrong; by implication to disturb, violate: – condemn, make trouble, vex, be (commit, deal, depart, do) wicked (-ly, -ness).

The Word Study Dictionary tells us, In the simple stem, this verb means to be or to become guilty, to act wickedly.”

  • But the people who are loyal to their God will act valiantly.”

    There is only one God, but to the Jew it is Jehovah. So, what does loyalty look like?

    If Antiochus IV is a precursor of future events, then it is safe to say that at this point in time Jesus will not have returned and Israel will be under siege. Daniel 11:31 are one of those indicators.

    Isaiah 65:12 CEV Your luck will end! I will see to it that you are slaughtered with swords. You refused to answer when I called out; you paid no attention to my instructions. Instead, you did what I hated, knowing it was wrong.

    We are told that 2/3 of Israel will be killed or destroyed by invaders. What is not clear to us is how they will defend themselves, nor how well.

    Ezekiel 5:12 CEV A third of you will die here in Jerusalem from disease or starvation. Another third will be killed in war. And I will scatter the last third of you in every direction, then track you down and kill you.

    Zechariah 13:8 CEV Nowhere in the land will more than a third of them be left alive.

    In trying to find comparable words that might give you a secondary witness it is difficult at best. There is, however, this from the Prophet Joel.

    Note the events and the timing, as they are deep in the middle of the tumult that we call the Great Tribulation. Joel describes a scenario where many are calling upon the name of the Lord. This act, whether confident or not, causes them to be delivered. The prophetic word also tells us that there will those that escape. There will be survivors.

    Joel 2:30-32 NASB “I will display wonders in the sky and on the earth, Blood, fire and columns of smoke. 31) “The sun will be turned into darkness And the moon into blood Before the great and awesome day of the LORD comes. 32) “And it will come about that whoever calls on the name of the LORD Will be delivered; For on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem There will be those who escape, As the LORD has said, Even among the survivors whom the LORD calls.

    Daniel 11:33 AMPC+ And they who are wise and understanding among the people shall instruct many and make them understand, though some [of them and their followers] shall fall by the sword and flame, by captivity and plunder, for many days.

  • And they who are wise and understanding among the people shall instruct many and make them understand,

    Here it is not the professionally trained theologians and clergy, but the ordinary people of God, Jews. While the commentary may presume that it will be “those believers taught in the word who understand doctrine, who will be used to instruct,” the problem is you can’t find a believer like that.

    The church is doing a terrible job of creating wise and those with understanding. Ask yourself this question, where will they learn, as they will be pressed for time and for their lives?

    Another aspect of scripture tells us that God will lift the veil from Israels eyes, and, in so doing they will come to a knowledge of Jesus as the Messiah. In other words, they will come to a wise understanding, and then, direct, and encourage the faith of others and the weaker believers during the time of tribulation and persecution.

    Here is where logic comes into play. When the church tells you that we cannot or do not do that anymore – that is walk in the power of the spirit, then who will tell them?

    As the time we are dealing with is “the great tribulation” then we should also know that there are two witnesses, sent from God, who stand in the streets of Jerusalem. These two preach the gospel of Jesus Christ and they walk in the mind bending power of the prophets. Since they are most likely Enoch and Elijah, they already have experience doing just that. I have suggested on many occassions that those who are left should follow their example.

  • yet they will fall by sword and by flame, by captivity and by plunder for many days.

    Great, you, while stuck here in the “great Tribulation”, are having amazing success. But there is no one to hang the neon signs that call people to your great faith rally. Why is that? Because, as Islam calls us the people of the book are seen as infidels worthy of only one thing, death.

    There really is no way around this as those who are beheaded for the gospels sake are in the uncountable numbers.

     

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Daniel 11, the rise of the king of the North. Verses 17-27


I hate making rookie mistakes, but I am prone to the same errors many of you have encountered; that is, as I was going through my notes I noticed Daniel 11:15, 16 were missing. That would mean that I might have skipped by them when I did the bible study; maybe not. So, for the sake of completion I quickly added them in the previous post; however, this is where I made the rookie error. Note my comments.

Daniel 11:16 NASB “But he who comes against him will do as he pleases, and no one will be able to withstand him; he will also stay for a time in the Beautiful Land, with destruction in his hand.

As you saw in verse fifteen, there will be no strength to make a stand.

  • But he who comes against him will do as he pleases, and no one will be able to withstand him;”

    Antiochus III – also known as Antiochus the Great, is a forerunner and interchangeable with the Antichrist that is coming.

  • he will also stay for a time in the Beautiful Land, with destruction in his hand.”

    The Revised Version translates the verse this way, “and he shall stand in the glorious land, and in his hand shall be destruction.”
    This is indicative of what will happen to Israel by the hand of Antichrist.

It seems harmless enough, but the most direct descendant would be Antiochus Epiphanes (IV), for he is the one who desecrated the temple; and, he is the one scholars tend to agree, they agree, is the pattern for the Antichrist that is coming. But, as I looked again at the descriptives I see in Antiochus the III, are there things here that fit the Antichrist? Yes. Are there exceptions? Yes. An example might be:

Daniel 11:42-45 RV He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape. 43) But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps. 44) But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: and he shall go forth with great fury to destroy and utterly to make away many. 45) And he shall plant the tents of his palace between the sea and the glorious holy mountain; yet, he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.

We will get to Daniel 11:42-45 eventually, but for the moment pay attention to the idea that “he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.” One might say that this alone indicates that he is not invincible, and he isn’t, but it is only the return of Jesus Christ to earth that puts a stop to this guy. Look at the context of the verses I included and you can see things like Egypt shall not escape; he shall have power over the treasures; “and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.

In case there is any doubt that this guy meets his end, I give you:

Revelation 19:19-20 RV And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat upon the horse, and against his army. 20) And the beast was taken and with him the false prophet that wrought the signs in his sight, wherewith he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image: they twain were cast alive into the lake of fire that burneth with brimstone:

Yes, the Antichrist persona is also known as the beast.


Let’s continue on with Daniel 11; and yes, it actually took me four weeks to cover my notes, but I rushed through chapter 12 and I wish I had not done that.

Antiochus the Great and Ptolemy V come to terms. Antiochus gives Ptolemy his daughter who later helps her husband defeat the plans of Antiochus.

Daniel 11:17 NIV He will determine to come with the might of his entire kingdom and will make an alliance with the king of the South. And he will give him a daughter in marriage in order to overthrow the kingdom, but his plans will not succeed or help him.

He, is Antiochus the Great/AKA, Antiochus III.

  • To set one’s face in any direction is to determine to go there. The meaning here is, that Antiochus, flushed with success, and resolved to push his conquests to the utmost, would make use of all the forces at his disposal to overcome the Egyptians, and to bring them into subjection to his sway. He had driven Scopas from Coelo-Syria, and from Sidon; had subjected the land of Palestine to his control, and now nothing seemed to prevent his extending his conquests to the utmost limits of his ambition. [Albert Barnes’ Notes on the Bible]

  • From the IVPBBC – Antiochus III’s defeat by the Roman, Scipio (191, 190). The increasing Roman control in Greece was established by a peace accord in 196. The Greeks who were unhappy with this new state of affairs made contact with Antiochus, urging him to come to their aid.

    By this time, Antiochus, anticipating that he would need to neutralize Egypt, had entered a marriage alliance, sending his daughter, Cleopatra, to be Ptolemy V’s bride. He expected her to also be a useful spy, but in this he was disappointed as her loyalties turned to her new husband.

Daniel 11:18 NIV Then he will turn his attention to the coastlands and will take many of them, but a commander will put an end to his insolence and will turn his insolence back on him.

Nevertheless, he made his move toward Greece in 192.

Constantly shifting alliances eventually worked against him, and he lost a large portion of his ten thousand troops at Thermopylae in 191.

Antiochus III then resorted to sea battle to try to keep the Romans out of Asia Minor but was again unsuccessful.

By 190 the larger Seleucid army of seventy-thousand men had arrived to reinforce Antiochus’s positions. Roman troops under Scipio were only half this strength when the forces met at Magnesia (about fifty miles north of Ephesus). Yet due to lack of training and tactical errors on the part of the Seleucid army, Antiochus was defeated and much of his army slaughtered.

Daniel 11:19 NIV After this, he will turn back toward the fortresses of his own country but will stumble and fall, to be seen no more.

The terms of surrender were humiliating, devastating and accepted without argument. IVPBBC

Daniel 11:20 AMPC+ Then shall stand up in his place or office one who shall send an exactor of tribute to pass through the glory of the kingdom, but within a few days he shall be destroyed, [yet] neither in anger nor in battle.

Let’s try reading it from the NIV.

Daniel 11:20 NIV “His successor will send out a tax collector to maintain the royal splendor. In a few years, however, he will be destroyed, yet not in anger or in battle.

Who is this successor?

  • Seleucus IV Philopator (187-175). This son of Antiochus III had a relatively peaceful reign and appeared to have maintained favorable relations with Jerusalem. The exception alluded to in this verse was when he dispatched one of his chief officials, Heliodorus, to Jerusalem to seize funds that were reported to be either in excess of what was needed or hoarded by anti-Seleucid factions. Before the high priest, Onias III could get to Antioch to appeal the decision and offer explanation,

  • Seleucus was assassinated in a plot carried out by Heliodorus, with Antiochus IV suspected by historians of complicity. IVPBBC

Who gained the most from the murder of Seleucus IV’s murder? Antiochus IV.

Antiochus Epiphanes and dealings with Israel are pictured in Daniel 11:21-34.

He obtains his rule by flattery.

Daniel 11:21 AMPC+ And in his place or office [in Syria] shall arise a contemptuous and contemptible person, to whom royal majesty and honor of the kingdom have not been given. But he shall come in without warning in time of security and shall obtain the kingdom by flatteries, intrigues, and cunning hypocritical conduct. [Dan 8:9-12, Dan 8:23-25]

CJB “There will arise in his place a despicable man not entitled to inherit the majesty of the kingdom, but he will come without warning and gain the kingdom by intrigue.

a contemptuous and contemptible person – The NASB translated this as despicable. The Hebrew word is, bāzāh: A verb meaning to hold in contempt or to despise. The verb means to hold in disdain, to disrespect. It can mean to prefer something more than the thing despised,

  • Antiochus IV Epiphanes (175-164). Antiochus IV, the brother of Seleucus, had been in Rome as a political hostage and was just returning (he had got as far as Athens) when the assassination of his brother took place.

  • His goals included converting Jerusalem into a center for Greek culture and helping the Jews to make the transition to becoming Greek citizens with Greek ways.

  • The intrigues that he became involved in were many, but certainly, the main one concerning Jerusalem was how he handled the high priesthood.

  • The text calls him contemptible, and indeed he was. His title “Epiphanes” means “god manifest”—but the people preferred “Epimanes”—“madman.” While he was certainly a member of the royal line, the throne should have gone to Seleucus’s son, Demetrius (who instead was taking Antiochus’s place as hostage in Rome). Another intrigue concerned the throne. He set up a coregency with his nephew (a minor), who a few years later was murdered. IVPBBC

Keep in mind that Antiochus IV Epiphanes is the forerunner for the false prophet of the end times.

Question? How many beasts are we talking about? The Antichrist gets that title, as does the false prophet, and then there are the four empires with lions heads and bears paws, and also that multi-headed beast that emerges from the sea and one of the heads sustains what seems to be a mortal wound. The point is that both characters, the Antichrist and the false prophet, have such similar and destructive characteristics, and, they are both called beasts.

He makes a league with the high priest; deals deceitfully and becomes strong.

Daniel 11:22 CJB Large armies will be broken and swept away before him, as well as the prince of the covenant.

I need to show you a contrasting version.

Daniel 11:22 KJV And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant.

And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken,… That is, by the help of the forces of Eumenes and Attalus, which were like an inundation of water, the party that were on the side of Heliodorus the usurper were bore down, crushed, and destroyed; and thereby Antiochus had a peaceable settlement in the kingdom: or, “the arms of a flood shall be overflowed from before him, and be broken” (r); either the arms of Heliodorus, the forces he had got together; or the armies of the Egyptians, which, like an overflowing flood, had used to run over Judea, Coelesyria, Phoenicia, and other places, and carry all before them, now should be overflowed, and bore down themselves. [John Gill’s commentary]

  • prince of the covenant. Onias III was detained by Antiochus, and in the interim Jason, his brother conspired to usurp his position. He (Jason) paid a considerable sum to Antiochus and offered to be cooperative in the Hellenization of Judea (promotion of Greek culture at the expense of Jewish practices).

  • Three years later Menelaus, with the probable support of the Tobiads, paid a larger sum and, the precedent having been established, was awarded the office over Jason.

  • According to 2 Maccabees, Onias was murdered about 171.

  • Many identify him as the prince of the covenant referred to in this verse, but others attach that title to Ptolemy VI (see below). The overwhelming army in some way represents the opponents to Antiochus’s reign. This could include internal political opponents, Jewish antagonists or foreign opposition such as that which develops in Egypt. IVPBBC

Daniel 11:23 CJB Alliances will be made with him, but he will undermine them by deceit. Then, although he will have but a small following, he will emerge and become strong.

The meaning of this seems to be, that at first, his own forces would be small; that he would go up in such a way as not to excite suspicion, but that, either by an increase of his forces there, by uniting himself to confederates, by alluring the people by the promise of rewards, or by gradually taking one town after another and adding them to his dominions, he would become strong. Jahn (Heb. Commonwealth, p. 263) says, “with a small body of troops he made himself master of Memphis, and of all Egypt as far as Alexandria, almost without striking a blow.” IVPBBC

Daniel 11:24 NET. In a time of prosperity for the most productive areas of the province he will come and accomplish what neither his fathers nor their fathers accomplished. He will distribute loot, spoils, and property to his followers, and he will devise plans against fortified cities, but not for long.

into tranquillity, and the fattest places of the province” (s); that is, into such places as were in great tranquillity, and men thought themselves safe and secure, and had no suspicion of his designs upon them, and which abounded in wealth and riches: these were either the principal cities in the kingdom of Syria, which he visited in order to establish himself in their good opinion of him; or the chief places of the province of Phoenicia, where he endeavoured to make himself acceptable by his munificence; or it may be the best parts of the kingdom of Egypt are meant, the richest of them, such as Memphis, and the places about it; where, as Sutorius in Jerome says, he went; and which places being fat, producing a large increase, and abounding in wealth, invited him thither; and which wealth he took, and scattered among his friends and soldiers, as in a following clause:

and he shall do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers’ fathers; none of his ancestors, more near or more remote; not Antiochus the great, nor Seleucus Ceraunus, nor Seleucus Callinicus, nor Antiochus Theos, nor Antiochus Soter, nor Seleucus Nicator, the founder of the Syrian empire; for, however greater these might be in power or riches, they were inferior to him in success; though they all, or most of them, however, had their eye upon Egypt, and would gladly have been masters of it; yet none of the kings of Syria prevailed over it, as Antiochus did; and this may also refer to what follows:

he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches; which he took from the places or rich cities he entered into; and these he plentifully and liberally dispersed among his followers, his soldiers, “the small people” he became strong with, Dan_11:23, whereby he gained their affections and attached them to his interest; and in this his liberality and munificence he is said to abound above all the kings that were before him, in the Apocrypha: John Gill’s Exposition of the Bible

Makes war against Ptolemy of Egypt who is betrayed and killed and his army defeated.

Daniel 11:25 NIV “With a large army he will stir up his strength and courage against the king of the South. The king of the South will wage war with a large and very powerful army, but he will not be able to stand because of the plots devised against him.

First Egyptian War, 169. Antiochus’s dreams of adding Egypt to his kingdom were finally acted on in 169. His invasion was prompted by Egypt’s growing animosity and may even have been in response to Egypt’s military action, since the first encounter (November 170) was between Pelusium and Gaza. Nonetheless, Antiochus succeeded in capturing the city of Memphis and securing the surrender of Ptolemy VI. IVPBBC

Daniel 11:26 NIV Those who eat from the king’s provisions will try to destroy him; his army will be swept away, and many will fall in battle.

Ptolemy VI Philometor (181-146). Ptolemy VI was young when he came to the throne and was aided by two officials, Eulaeus and Lenaeus, who stirred up antagonism against Syria. The humiliation of Ptolemy in the First Egyptian War is thought to have been the result of bad advice given by his two advisors with the intention of undermining him. IVPBBC

Daniel 11:27 NIV The two kings, with their hearts bent on evil, will sit at the same table and lie to each other, but to no avail because an end will still come at the appointed time.

Unsuccessful siege of Alexandria. After his successful siege of Memphis, the citizens of Alexandria defied him by making Ptolemy’s younger brother king. Antiochus took immediate steps to break their revolt but was unable to take the city. As soon as he had returned to Syria, Ptolemy VI disavowed any loyalty to Antiochus and his coregency with his brother was reinstated. IVPBBC

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Daniel 11, the rise of the kings of the North and South. Verses 5-16.


Alexander is dead and now we have four generals struggling for power. At the end of this power struggle, two will remain, but one seems to take central focus as it integrates the Assyrian empires, and has interactions with the Roman empire, and battles with the South – the Egyptian/Ptolemaic empire.

The four generals: Lysimachus; Cassander; Ptolemy Lagidae; Seleucus I.

Daniel 11:5 AMPC+ Then the king of the South (Egypt) shall be strong, but one of his princes shall be stronger than he is and have dominion; his dominion shall be a great dominion.

One of the most powerful of those monarchies, if not “the” most powerful, was Egypt.

  • the king of the South (Egypt) shall be strong. – This was Ptolemy l

  • but one of his princes shall be stronger than he is and have dominion; his dominion shall be a great dominion.”

    Albert Barnes commentary indicates: “The meaning of this passage is, that there would be “one of his princes,” that is, of the princes of Alexander, who would be more mighty than the one who obtained Egypt, or the south, and that he would have a more extended dominion. The reference is, doubtless, to Seleucus Nicator, or the conqueror. In the division of the empire, he obtained Syria, Babylonia, Media, Susiana, Armenia, a part of Cappadocia, and Cilicia, and his kingdom stretched from the Hellespont to the Indus.”

      • This is Seleucus Nicator, also known as, the king of the north.

The league between Egypt, the south, and Syria, the north, through the marriage of Bernice, daughter of Ptolemy Philadelphus, to Antiochus Theos, the third king of Syria.

Verse 7: A branch of her roots; a brother, Ptolemy Euergetes.

Daniel 11:6,7 AMPC+ At the end of some years they [the king of the North, Syria, and the king of the South, Egypt] shall make an alliance; the daughter of the king of the South shall come to the king of the North to make [a just and peaceful marriage] agreement; but she shall not retain the power of her might, neither shall he and his might endure. She shall be handed over with her attendants, her child, and him who strengthened her in those times. (7) But out of a branch of the [same ancestral] roots as hers shall one [her brother] stand up in his place or office, who shall come against the [Syrian] army and shall enter into the fortress of the king of the North and shall deal against them and shall prevail.

  • At the end of some years they [the king of the North, Syria, and the king of the South, Egypt] shall make an alliance;”

    This was done through marriage.

  • the daughter of the king of the South shall come to the king of the North to make [a just and peaceful marriage] agreement”

    These prophecies seem to have been fulfilled many years later in the Seleucid wars between Egypt and Syria. In 252 B.C., Ptolemy II of Egypt (“the south”) gave his daughter Berenice in marriage to Antiochus II of Syria (“the north”) to finalize a peace treaty between their two lands.

  • but she shall not retain the power of her might, neither shall he and his might endure”

    But Berenice was murdered in Antioch by Antiochus II’s former wife, Laodice.

  • She shall be handed over with her attendants, her child, and him who strengthened her in those times”

    Berenice’s brother, Ptolemy III, ascended the Egyptian throne and declared war against the Seleucids to avenge his sister’s murder.” Life Application Study Bible

  • But out of a branch of the [same ancestral] roots as hers shall one [her brother] stand up in his place or office, who shall come against the [Syrian] army and shall enter into the fortress of the king of the North and shall deal against them and shall prevail.”

Daniel 11:8 AMPC+ And also he (Ptolemy III Euergetes (246-221)) shall carry off to Egypt their [Syria’s] gods with their molten images and with their precious vessels of silver and of gold, and he shall refrain for some years from [waging war against] the king of the North.

Ptolemy III, ascended the Egyptian throne and declared war against the Seleucids to avenge his sister’s murder.

Pay attention to the phrase: “And also he shall carry off to Egypt their [Syria’s] gods with their molten images” Both the north and the south had their select gods. Soon we will see Antiochus Epiphanes substituting other gods from Rome and Greece. Why is this a problem; I thought Alexander was Greek? The problem is that all of the northern empires up to Antiochus IV were distinctly Syrian. Look at a map of this time period and you will see territories covering from Asia Minor to the furthest reaches of Babylon and South to Palestine.

Daniel 11:9 AMPC+ And he [the king of Syria –Seleucus II Callinicus (246-226)] shall come into the kingdom of the king of the South but shall return to his own land.

    • Seleucus II Callinicus (246-226). Laodice’s son, Seleucus II, emerged the beneficiary of all of the treachery and intrigue of his mother. In 243 he attempted to gain control of southern Syria and Palestine. Not only was he unsuccessful, but the momentum turned against him and he ended up losing territory. IVPBBC

A question: What is Israel doing while all this is going on? Hanging by a thread.

Defeat of Antiochus the Great by Ptolomy lll of Egypt (the south.)

Daniel 11:10 AMPC+ But his sons shall be stirred up and shall prepare for war and shall assemble a multitude of great forces, which shall come on and overflow and pass through and again shall make war even to the fortress [of the king of the South].

    • Seleucus III (226-223). For the last fifteen years of his reign, Seleucus II was engaged in an ongoing struggle with his brother, Antiochus Hierax. Both died about the same time, and Seleucus III came to the throne. Verse ten telescopes the events of the next ten years. Seleucus III was killed in a campaign against Pergamum in Asia Minor. He was succeeded by his brother, Antiochus III, who began mustering troops for the Fourth Syrian War (221-217) against Ptolemy IV. IVPBBC

    • Ptolemy IV Philopator (221-203). For most of the years of the Fourth Syrian War, Ptolemy IV had little success militarily against Antiochus (lll) the Great and only forestalled his progress south through repeated diplomatic initiatives. Many of Antiochus’s successes were carried out with the help of traitors rather than through military power or genius. In fact his lackadaisical tactics allowed Ptolemy to gather, train and field a significant armed force by 217. IVPBBC

Antiochus the Great (III)(Syria/the north), renews the war after fourteen years and defeats Ptolemy V (Egypt/the south.)

Daniel 11:11-13 AMPC+ And the king of the South (Egypt) shall be moved with anger and shall come forth and fight with the king of the North (Syria); and he [the Syrian king] shall set forth a great multitude, but the multitude shall be given into his [the Egyptian king’s] hand. 12) When the multitude is taken and carried away, the heart and mind [of the Egyptian king] shall be exalted, and he shall cast down tens of thousands, but he shall not prevail. 13) For the king of the North shall raise a multitude greater than [he had] before, and after some years shall certainly return, coming with a great army and much substance and equipment.

    • Fourth and Fifth Syrian Wars. In 217 Ptolemy IV engaged Antiochus III at the Battle of Raphia for what would turn out to be the climactic battle of the Fourth Syrian War. Raphia was a traditional dividing line between Palestine and Egypt, about twenty miles southwest of Gaza on the Mediterranean coast. Antiochus claimed an army of seventy thousand, but even with the superior size of his armies he was beaten badly by the Egyptians. This victory restored Syro-Palestine to the control of the Ptolemies. This status was maintained until the death of Ptolemy IV in 204 (13 years). The suspicious circumstances of the death of Ptolemy IV (still in his thirties) brought his six-year-old son, Ptolemy V Epiphanes (204-180), to the throne of Egypt. Antiochus took the opportunity of conflict over who was in charge to initiate the Fifth Syrian War (202-200), allied with Philip V of Macedon. IVPBBC

Daniel 11:14-16 NIV “In those times many will rise against the king of the South. Those who are violent among your own people will rebel in fulfillment of the vision, but without success. 15) Then the king of the North will come and build up siege ramps and will capture a fortified city. The forces of the South will be powerless to resist; even their best troops will not have the strength to stand. 16) The invader [Antiochus the Great] will do as he pleases; no one will be able to stand against him. He will establish himself in the Beautiful Land and will have the power to destroy it.

  • He will establish himself in the Beautiful Land and will have the power to destroy it.

    The beautiful land = Jersualem.

    • Antiochus III’s occupation of Palestine. The Battle of Gaza in 201 gained Antiochus temporary control of Palestine, but he was pushed back again by Egyptian forces under the command of Scopas. In the next year, however, at the Battle of Panion (at one of the sources of the Jordan; the New Testament Caesarea Philippi, modern Banias), Antiochus defeated the Egyptians and took control of Palestine from them for the last time. At the same time, the Romans were getting a foothold in Greece in the Second Macedonian War. IVPBBC

At this point in time we have a member of the Seleucid family Antiochus III / aka: Antiochus the Great, a Syrian (hold that idea loosely), standing at the Southern boundary of the Seleucid empire, what they are calling Palestine. We know it as Jerusalem.

Daniel 11:14 speaks of violent men. The book of 3 Maccabees records a visit of Ptolemy IV to Jerusalem after the Battle of Raphia in which he was treated very badly when he wished to enter the temple. There is a question concerning the historicity of the account. There were pro-Seleucid (led by Onias II, the high priest) and pro- Ptolemaic factions (from the powerful Tobiad family, competitors for the office of high priest) within Judea at this period. Sources do not provide enough information to determine which party might be alluded to in this verse.

    • Violent men. – The Hebrew word is per-eets’ and means violent, that is, a tyrant: – destroyer, ravenous, robber.

      Jeremiah 7:11 NASB “Has this house, which is called by My name, become a den of robbers in your sight? Behold, I, even I, have seen it,” declares the LORD.

      Here the word per-eets’ was translated as robber.

      Ezekiel 7:20-22 NASB ‘They transformed the beauty of His ornaments into pride, and they made the images of their abominations and their detestable things with it; therefore I will make it an abhorrent thing to them. 21) ‘I will give it into the hands of the foreigners as plunder and to the wicked of the earth as spoil, and they will profane it. 22) ‘I will also turn My face from them, and they will profane My secret place; then robbers will enter and profane it.

      Once again the word per-eets’ was translated as robber instead of violent

  • He will establish himself in the Beautiful Land and will have the power to destroy it.”

    The Hebrew word āmaḏ carries a variety of meanings with a range emotions; such as: abide (behind), appoint, arise, cease, confirm, continue, dwell, be employed, endure, establish.

    The NASB states that he has destruction in his hand. I suppose that is another way of saying Jerusalem was at his mercy. The word for destruction is kâlâh and seems to be an adversarial word since completion; can be the absolute opposite of destruction.

Daniel 11:15 NASB “Then the king of the North will come, cast up a siege ramp and capture a well-fortified city; and the forces of the South will not stand their ground, not even their choicest troops, for there will be no strength to make a stand.

Antiochus III’s occupation of Palestine. The Battle of Gaza in 201 gained Antiochus temporary control of Palestine, but in the next year at the Battle of Panion Antiochus defeated the Egyptians and took control of Palestine from them for the last time.

11:14 speaks of violent men and I believe that theme holds true when we consider, not only Antiochus III, but the Antichrist persona that is coming. While the book of 3 Maccabees records a visit of Ptolemy IV to Jerusalem after the Battle of Raphia in which he was treated very badly when he wished to enter the temple. This is nothing in comparison to what we see in scripture.

Daniel 11:16 NASB “But he who comes against him will do as he pleases, and no one will be able to withstand him; he will also stay for a time in the Beautiful Land, with destruction in his hand.

As you saw in verse fifteen, there will be no strength to make a stand.

  • But he who comes against him will do as he pleases, and no one will be able to withstand him;”

    Antiochus III – also known as Antiochus the Great, is a forerunner and interchangeable with the Antichrist that is coming.

  • he will also stay for a time in the Beautiful Land, with destruction in his hand.”

    The Revised Version translates the verse this way, “and he shall stand in the glorious land, and in his hand shall be destruction.”

    This is indicative of what will happen to Israel at the hand of Antichrist.

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Daniel chapter 11 – The Kings of the South and the North. Verses 1-4.


Let me apologize for the lack of posts, as I have been working on other things since delivering this bible study. Also, since getting some advice from a friend who used to moderate a blog site, I have been conscious of the length. Initially, I intended to post all of chapter 11, but if you were to print it out it would be twenty pages long. It took me three weeks to deliver. And, as you will see, it comes off as a rather intense history lesson. Consider the way God delivers information and how He speaks about the future. This is precisely why critics have found it easy to say, this was written after the fact. That is not the case and I attempted to make it clear, through timelines, explanation, and the interjection of historical aspects.

Daniel chapter 11 – The Kings of the South and the North

A history of the Middle East from Darius to the future Antichrist. Daniel 11:1-34

Calvary Chapel Pastor David Guzik tells us, “This chapter contains one of the most specifically fulfilled prophecies of the Bible, predicting history over some 375 years, and to the end of known time, with amazing accuracy.

Chuck Missler agrees with David Guzik when he says, “That the chapter is so specific, that many critics and scholars who deny supernatural revelation, have insisted that it is history, written after the fact, fraudulently claiming to be prophecy.”

I realize we are working on chapter 11, but for the sake of understanding, How did Daniel 10 begin?

Daniel 10:1 In the third year of Cyrus king of Persia (550 -530BC) a message was revealed to Daniel,

By comparison, how does Daniel 11 start out?

Daniel 11:1 And in the first year of Darius the Mede (522-486BC), I stood to strengthen him and to provide protection for him.)

  • in the first year of Darius the Mede (522-486BC),

    This is a chronological gap of over 25 years.

    While the statement, “in the first year of Darius the Mede,” might seem unimportant Daniel is giving us several clues. One clue speaks specifically to when this event happened.

    Since Darius the Mede is the third aspect of Nebuchadnezzar’s statue, then we know that a fourth empire is coming. However, that fourth empire, if we attempt a chronological accounting, is Grecian. And, even then, after Alexander’s death, there were four Grecian General’s that ruled in Alexander’s stead. God, it seems, is going to bypass the four and focus on the lineage of the one that has the greatest impact on Israel.

    Timeline from Nebuchadnezzar to Darius

  • I stood to strengthen him and to provide protection for him.”

    An alternate translation says I stood to be “an encouragement …” This actually sounds like the character of Daniel.

     

  • Him” is a reference to Darius.

    Isn’t that odd? You would assume that God would be like us and only take care of His own. But, who is to say that Darius does not belong to God as well.

     

    In Isaiah, it says that God sent Israel to Babylon.

     

    Isaiah 43:14 NASB Thus says the LORD your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel, “For your sake I have sent to Babylon, And will bring them all down as fugitives, Even the Chaldeans, into the ships in which they rejoice.

    In Jeremiah, Israel is told that they will be given into the hand of the king of Babylon.

     

    Jeremiah 20:4 NASB “For thus says the LORD, ‘Behold, I am going to make you a terror to yourself and to all your friends; and while your eyes look on, they will fall by the sword of their enemies. So I will give over all Judah to the hand of the king of Babylon, and he will carry them away as exiles to Babylon and will slay them with the sword.

    Who arose or stood to strengthen him?

    In chapter 10 verses 19,20 we established that Gabriel was speaking, and may well be the speaker here. However, if this is Daniel speaking, in what ways could Daniel have sought or provided protection for Darius? While we have certainly perceived Daniel to be a purveyor of wisdom, to several captor kings, being a protector has never been implied. One thing you need to keep in mind is that Daniel has, while in Babylon, been under subjection to a series of kings that were willing to end your life in a hurry, especially if you were a captive slave.

     

Four more kings over Persia before Alexander the Great.

Daniel 11:2 “And now I will tell you the truth. Behold, three more kings are going to arise in Persia. Then a fourth will gain far more riches than all of them; as soon as he becomes strong through his riches, he will arouse the whole empire against the realm of Greece.

  • “And now I will tell you the truth. Behold, three more kings are going to arise in Persia.”

    Daniel 2:31-45. Nebuchadnezzar is the head of gold, Cyrus the Mede, the shoulders of silver, and Darius, the Persian, the chest of bronze.

    Because the thighs and legs are made of Iron and come after the Persian empire, it seems this is another.

    three kings. Note: These were, Cambyses, son of Cyrus; Smerdia the Magian impostor, and Darius Hystaspes. The Ultimate Cross-Reference Treasury

Matthew Henry’s commentary tells us:

He (Gabriel) foretells the reign of four Persian kings (Dan_11:2): Now I will tell thee the truth, that is, the true meaning of the visions of the great image, and of the four beasts, and expound in plain terms what was before represented by dark types. (1.) There shall stand up three kings in Persia, besides Darius, in whose reign this prophecy is dated, Dan_9:1. Mr. Broughton makes these three to be Cyrus, Artaxasta or Artaxerxes, called by the Greeks Cambyses, and Ahasuerus that married Esther called Darius son of Hystaspes. To these three the Persians gave these attributes – Cyrus was a father, Cambyses a master, and Darius a hoarder up. So Herodotus. (2.) There shall be a fourth, far richer than they all, that is, Xerxes, of whose wealth the Greek authors take notice. By his strength (his vast army, consisting of 800,000 men at least) and his riches, with which he maintained and paid that vast army, he stirred up all against the realm of Greece. Xerxes’s expedition against Greece is famous in history, and the shameful defeat that he met with. He who when he went out was the terror of Greece in his return was the scorn of Greece.

With the understanding that we are using Darius as the baseline, Gabriel’s comments logically pertain those who come after Darius. However, we have already seen that God works outside our time frame, and, He has little concern for chronology, and we will see that this also pertains to a distant future; that future is now.

There were several kings of Persia after Xerxes, such as Artaxerxes Longimanus, Darius Nothus, Artaxerxes Mnemon, Ochus, and Darius Codomanus, but these are not enumerated because the real ground of the invasion of Alexander, the thing which connected him with the affairs of Persia, did not occur in their reign, but it was the invasion of Greece by Xerxes. Albert Barnes’ Notes on the Bible

Daniel 11:2 “… he will stir up everyone against the kingdom of Greece.”

    • Xerxes did just that.

      The LASB has a comment that is intriguing: “The fourth Persian king may have been Xerxes I (also called Ahasuerus, 486-465 B.C.), who launched an all-out effort against Greece in 480 BC.

      This is the same king we see in the story of Esther.

Esther 1:1 – The following events happened in the days of Ahasuerus. (I am referring to that Ahasuerus who used to rule over a hundred and twenty-seven provinces extending all the way from India to Ethiopia. ) NET Bible

A mighty King, Alexander the Great” Dan 8:21

Daniel 11:3 “And a mighty king will arise, and he will rule with great authority and do as he pleases.

Mighty is the Hebrew word gibbôr which means powerful; by implication warrior, tyrant.
The disconcerting aspect of this word is that it was also used of the Nephaliim. This might imply that Alexander was also a giant.

Daniel 7:6 “After this I kept looking, and behold, another one, like a leopard, which had on its back four wings of a bird; the beast also had four heads, and dominion was given to it.

The beast having four heads is another clue that takes us back to Alexander’s generals which take over after his death.

Focusing on the word dominion.

H7985 – soltan: An Aramaic masculine noun meaning dominion, sovereignty. Most frequently, this noun is used in conjunction with God, showing that He has dominion over everything that exists (Dan_4:3 [3:33]; Dan_4:34 [31]). His dominion is greater than that of a person’s many ways, one being that it is an everlasting dominion that can never be destroyed (Dan_7:14). This noun can also be used of kings (Dan_4:22 [19]). It was used in Daniel’s dream of the four beasts to describe the dominion they have (Dan_7:6, Dan_7:12, Dan_7:26). Much less frequently, this word can be used in the concrete sense of a physical kingdom (Dan_6:26 [27]).

Daniel 8:5-8 While I was observing, behold, a male goat was coming from the west over the surface of the whole earth without touching the ground; and the goat had a conspicuous horn between his eyes. 6) He came up to the ram that had the two horns, which I had seen standing in front of the canal, and rushed at him in his mighty wrath. 7) I saw him come beside the ram, and he was enraged at him; and he struck the ram and shattered his two horns, and the ram had no strength to withstand him. So he hurled him to the ground and trampled on him, and there was none to rescue the ram from his power. 8) Then the male goat magnified himself exceedingly. But as soon as he was mighty, the large horn was broken; and in its place there came up four conspicuous horns toward the four winds of heaven.

Note that none could rescue the ram from his power. The large horn represents Alexander’s reign. Broken, it was replaced by his four generals.

Daniel 8:20-21 “The ram which you saw with the two horns represents the kings of Media and Persia. 21) “The shaggy goat represents the kingdom of Greece, and the large horn that is between his eyes is the first king.

I happen to believe the two horns represent the Seleucid and Ptolemaic empires; the last of the Alexandrian empire.

The Division of Alexander’s/Grecian empire into four kingdoms. Dan 8:22

Daniel 11:4 “But as soon as he has arisen, his kingdom will be broken up and parceled out toward the four points of the compass, though not to his own descendants, nor according to his authority which he wielded, for his sovereignty will be uprooted and given to others besides them.

Alexander only ruled for 13 years (336-323BC.)

From Wikipedia: “According to a Babylonian astronomical diary, Alexander died between the evening of June 10 and the evening of June 11, 323 BC, at the age of thirty-two. This happened in the palace of Nebuchadnezzar II in Babylon. Proposed causes of Alexander’s death included alcoholic liver disease, fever, and strychnine poisoning. According to the University of Maryland School of Medicine report of 1998, Alexander probably died of typhoid fever (which, along with malaria, was common in ancient Babylon). In the week before Alexander’s death, historical accounts mention chills, sweats, exhaustion and high fever, typical symptoms of infectious diseases, including typhoid fever. [”https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Alexander_the_Great%5D

Alexander’s kingdom was parceled out to four generals, who were overtaken by Ptolemy to the south and Seleucus in the north.

    • ..though not to his own descendants.”

      From the IVPPBC: “Alexander died in 323BC, at the age of 33; a twenty-year struggle for succession ensued that eventually led to a four-way division of the empire. Two of those divisions were in the Aegean region (Cassander had Greece and Macedonia; Lysimachus had Thrace), while the other two divided up the Near East (Ptolemy had Egypt and Palestine; Seleucus had Syria, Mesopotamia and Persia). The Ptolemaic line is going to be represented by “the king of the South,” while the Seleucid line will be represented by “the king of the North.”

       

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Daniel chapter 10 commentary and notes for Bible study


While a commentary on Daniel chapter 10 may seem uneventful, it was a part of my preparation for Bible study with the men. You see I am just like most of you, a guy who has wanted to understand what I read and its relationship to what is going on around me. I guess that makes me an eschatology person. The guys I sit with call me the expert; I am hardly an expert and I had a religious life filled with presuppositions. Church, while being the place where much of the mental abuse came from, did give me a deep understanding that God loved me; that love trailed me like a hound as I rebounded from hurt to hurt and struggled to free myself from co-dependency – I didn’t even understand what that was until a few years ago. As many of you know I put myself in a recovery group called Celebrate Recovery which uses many of the same principles as AA. I did this because my wife wanted me to get help for my rage, and I wanted help as well. For a short period, I worked the information table. There I noticed the paperwork for men’s co-dependency and read it; it was pathetic and lacking. You get the impression that men are not allowed to either have or admit that they are co-dependent. The women’s brochure, however, had about 30 lines of descriptives. I found myself in about 29 of those descriptions.

Church, while being the place where much of the mental abuse came from, did give me a deep understanding that God loved me; that love trailed me like a hound as I rebounded from hurt to hurt and struggled to free myself from co-dependency – I didn’t even understand what that was until a few years ago. As many of you know I put myself in a recovery group called Celebrate Recovery which uses many of the same principles as AA. I did this because my wife wanted me to get help for my rage, and I wanted help as well. For a short period, I worked the information table. There I noticed the paperwork for men’s co-dependency and read it; it was pathetic and lacking. You get the impression that men are not allowed to either have or admit that they are co-dependent. The women’s brochure, however, had about 30 lines of descriptives. I found myself in about 29 of those descriptions. Now, several years later, with time spent going through the steps multiple times, and even leading several groups, I am much better than I was.

Now, several years later, with time spent going through the steps multiple times, and even leading several groups, I am much better than I was. I can apply that same understanding to God’s word and its application to my life and the world around me. Having gone through the Bible several times and gaining help from others, such as Joel Richardson, the author of the Islamic Antichrist. I now have a firm grasp on the nature and character of Christ, and, the apocryphal books of the Bible are not only something I can grasp but exciting, as we are living in those times now.

This last sentence is what I try to convey to those who will listen. God, is a God of mercy; if that were not the case we would all be dead now. He loves you and desires a restored relationship with you. If He is a jealous God, it is because we have given our love to the things of this world. Jesus, is the Messiah.

Daniel Chapter 10

Daniel 10:1 In the third year of Cyrus king of Persia a message was revealed to Daniel, who was named Belteshazzar; and the message was true and one of great conflict, but he understood the message and had an understanding of the vision.

chronology. The third year of Cyrus’s rule in Babylon was 537/536. This is very close to the time when the first wave of Jews are returning from captivity and beginning the rebuilding of the temple (recorded in the first chapter of Ezra). Dan_10:4 indicates that the vision took place on the twenty-fourth day of the first month (Nisan). This would be in early April. The celebration of Passover and the Feast of Unleavened Bread (14-21 Nisan) IVPBBC

The importance of this is that Daniel is a devout Jew, and little would stop him from participating in the Passover.

Daniel chapter nine opened with, in the first year of Darius.” So this is not a chronological recounting of Daniel’s dreams, visions, and encounters.

Cyrus killed Belshazzar, quite possibly a son of Nebuchadnezzar (This is the kind statement you make when you have not done your homework. Shortly after this, I did an in-depth study into Daniel chapter 11, where I was compelled to pay attention to background details. It is found in Scripture where God calls Nebuchadnezzar father, but further exploration informs you that it was a sign of respect to call male relatives/elders father.) The implications of the word father are that Belshazzar was related to Nebuchadnezzar. None-the-less, Belshazzar is now dead.

Daniel 5:1. Belshazzar was the son and coregent of Nabonidus, the last king of Babylon. Nabonidus spent ten years in Teima while his son was carrying out all the royal duties in Babylon. A number of documents have been found that mention him by name. About thirty years have passed since the last chapter. Nebuchadnezzar died in 562, and the banquet of this chapter takes place in October 539. IVPBBC

  • a message was revealed to Daniel”

    Message – It signified spoken words or speech (Gen_11:1; Isa_36:5; Jer_51:64

  • the message was true and one of great conflict”

    The word true is the word ’emeth – stabile; figuratively certain, truth, trustworthy.

    Conflict is the Hebrew word tsâbâ’ and conveys the idea of a mass of persons organized for war.

  • but he understood the message”

    Understood is the Hebrew word bı̂yn and means to separate mentally. It also implies to consider.

  • “and had an understanding of the vision.”

    If someone were to say to me, I have an understanding, the implications to me are, that you only have a partial comprehension. However the phrase “had an understanding” derived from the Hebrew word bı̂ynâh means to perfectly understand.

Daniel 10:2-3 In those days, I, Daniel, had been mourning for three entire weeks. 3) I did not eat any tasty food, nor did meat or wine enter my mouth, nor did I use any ointment at all until the entire three weeks were completed.

  • Mourn.

    The Hebrew word ’aḇal: It is a verb that means to mourn. The Word Study Dictionary tells us that the word implies, “Those who mourn are persons who mourn for looking at God’s coming judgments” (Isa_19:8; Amo_8:8; Amo_9:5). As you can see I have given you their scripture references. The first two do not seem to apply when I try to find an example of someone who mourns because they are looking at God’s coming judgment. However, when I look at Amos 9:5 I can almost see their point. Upon further investigation and looking at the context, which takes me back to Amos 8:2, I see this:

    KJV “And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit. Then said the LORD unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them anymore.”

It only gets worse for description. The idea of the end seems to be related to the time of wrath and judgment.

The literal translation says, I ate no food for delight, and no flesh or wine came into my mouth. I did not anoint myself at all until three weeks of days were fulfilled. This seems so understandable with no ominous legal aspect to it.

If I were to fast the first thing I would do is to ask myself why. If it is to pay more attention to God then I would divert myself from distractions. In today’s world that might mean setting the smartphone aside, so that I could then give myself and my attention to God.

I suddenly found myself thinking about a statement that Oprah Winfrey openly confessed. She said she turned from the God and religion of her church-going mother because she came to understand that God was jealous. Oprah took that to mean that God was suspicious of her, and she could never have anything to do with a suspicious, overprotective God. Her mistake was thinking that she could do anything that would make God jealous. The reality is that God, like a lover, is jealous over us and longs for us to return to a restored relationship. I happen to value that God is that desirous for me. If I, in with my broken, sick mentality, thought that my fasting was merely to win the attention of a jealous God, then yes, this would be sick. So, if it is not mental depravity that motivates me, then what is it? Perhaps a desire for a relationship that is available but my flesh fights to prevent.

It would be logical to assume that Daniel is fasting, as he pleads with the Lord for an answer and wisdom. What are the parameters to Daniel’s fast?

  • No tasty food,

    Tasty – chamudah desirableness, preciousness: highly esteemed.

    A simple understanding would be to say, I ate no sweets, or perhaps gourmet food.

  • nor did meat or wine enter my mouth

    Wine – the Hebrew word yayin: A masculine noun referring to wine. It indicates the juice of the grapevine and its fruits, a common drink for refreshment in the Old Testament (Gen_14:18; Gen_27:25; Jdg_19:19) The Complete Word Study Dictionary

    So it is safe to assume he drank water.

  • nor did I use any ointment at all until the entire three weeks were completed.

    So Daniel did nothing to freshen up around other people. Perhaps he had a three-week vacation and could afford to stink, who knows.

Daniel 10:4 On the twenty-fourth day of the first month, while I was by the bank of the great river, that is, the Tigris,

The four and twentieth day of the first month; that is, the month Nisan or Abib [early April]—the month in which the Passover was celebrated in every Jewish home. (The Pulpit Commentary)

How perfect is that, for the preparations involved in the Passover would have allowed for most of Daniel’s food choices during this time. The celebration of Passover and the Feast of Unleavened Bread (14-21 Nisan) would have come and gone during Daniel’s three weeks of preparation. There is absolutely no reason to think Daniel would have excluded himself from the Passover, especially since it is a command for the Jews to practice.

Daniel 10:5-6 I lifted my eyes and looked, and behold, there was a certain man dressed in linen, whose waist was girded with a belt of pure gold of Uphaz. 6) His body also was like beryl, his face had the appearance of lightning, his eyes were like flaming torches, his arms and feet like the gleam of polished bronze, and the sound of his words like the sound of a tumult.

Sound familiar? It should for this is who the Apostle John saw as he looked into heaven; and, all of what John saw was a Revelation of Jesus, the Christ.

Revelation 1:13-15 and in the middle of the lampstands I saw one like a son of man, clothed in a robe reaching to the feet, and girded across His chest with a golden sash. 14) His head and His hair were white like white wool, like snow; and His eyes were like a flame of fire. 15) His feet were like burnished bronze, when it has been made to glow in a furnace, and His voice was like the sound of many waters.

Even the Roman guards saw this imagery as Jesus came and sat upon the same stone that He had rolled away.

Matthew 28:2-3 And behold, a severe earthquake had occurred, for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven and came and rolled away the stone and sat upon it. 3) And his appearance was like lightning, and his clothing as white as snow.

Daniel 10:7-8 Now I, Daniel, alone saw the vision, while the men who were with me did not see the vision; nevertheless, a great dread fell on them, and they ran away to hide themselves. 8) So I was left alone and saw this great vision; yet no strength was left in me, for my natural color turned to a deathly pallor, and I retained no strength.

  • Now I, Daniel, alone saw the vision, while the men who were with me did not see the vision;

    This is comparable to what happened to Saul on the road to Damascus.

    Acts 9:3-4,7 As he was traveling, it happened that he was approaching Damascus, and suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him; 4) and he fell to the ground and heard a voice saying to him, “Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me?” 7) The men who traveled with him stood speechless, hearing the voice but seeing no one.

  • Nevertheless, a great dread fell on them, and they ran away to hide themselves”

  • So I was left alone and saw this great vision; yet no strength was left in me, for my natural color turned to a deathly pallor, and I retained no strength.”

    We, much to our demise, have put on great stage shows in an effort to show the world the impact God has on people. Daniel describes the phenomenon as, “no strength was left in me.”

Daniel 10:9 But I heard the sound of his words; and as soon as I heard the sound of his words, I fell into a deep sleep on my face, with my face to the ground.

I want you to see something; it happens quite often in scripture and indicates that God is serious about what is being said and the immediate importance of the matter. It is the usage of the Hebrew word radam [fellH7290a into a deepH7290a sleepH7290a ] and it is repeated three times. Its meaning is to fall into a deep sleep. To the Jews, this a pattern, and all prophetic words are aligned with a pattern.

Daniel is now face down on the ground.

Daniel 10:10 Then behold, a hand touched me and set me trembling on my hands and knees.

We sang along with the Christian group Mercy Me, so many years ago, I can only imagine what I will do. Apparently overwhelmed by the presence of the Lord we do much trembling.

Daniel 10:11 He said to me, “O Daniel, man of high esteem, understand the words that I am about to tell you and stand upright, for I have now been sent to you.” And when he had spoken this word to me, I stood up trembling.

I so long for Him to say those words to me, calling me a man of high esteem.

  • ..stand upright, for I have now been sent to you.”

  • ” And when he had spoken this word to me, I stood up trembling…

Daniel 10:12 Then he said to me, “Do not be afraid, Daniel, for from the first day that you set your heart on understanding this and on humbling yourself before your God, your words were heard, and I have come in response to your words.

  • from the first day that you set your heart on understanding this and on humbling yourself before your God, your words were heard”

    We pray and our hearts cry out to God, but what do we do? We wonder if he hears us and cares. He does.

Daniel 10:13 “But the prince of the kingdom of Persia was withstanding me for twenty-one days; then behold, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, for I had been left there with the kings of Persia.

  • But the prince of the kingdom of Persia was withstanding me for twenty-one days”

    Consider: When Satan rebelled he took one-third of the angels with him.

    What are they doing today?
    I also ask you, how many of these fallen angels are there with him?

    What we are seeing here is one of those fallen angels, and it has a name – the Prince of Persia.

    A piece of discouraging news. Considering how powerful these angels are, you need to know that there are four chained up in the river Euphrates, awaiting the moment they are released upon the earth.

    Revelation 9:14 one saying to the sixth angel who had the trumpet, “Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates.”

    It only took one angel to kill off the first born in Egypt, in one night. Apparently, Gabriel is the messenger to Israel, God’s people, and in this case, Michael, one of the chief princes of the angel armies, has come to Gabriel’s assistance.

Daniel 10:14 Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days: for yet the vision is for many days.

Daniel 10:14 Complete Jewish Bible So I have come to make you understand what will happen to your people in the acharit-hayamim; for there is still another vision which will relate to those days.”

If I used the NASB exclusively I would be lead to believe that the two aspects of the statement are the same. But, having looked at the Complete Jewish Bible, it is clear that there is another vision as well. Regardless, what Daniel is about to hear applies to a distant future, that he will never see.

  • I have come to make you understand.”

    Understand is the Hebrew word biyn and means to discern, to perceive, to observe, to pay attention to, to be intelligent, to be discreet, to understand; in the causative sense, to give understanding, to teach; in the reflexive sense, to consider diligently. [WSD.]  But have a look at the Strong’s concordance and you will find that you have the added meaning of separating details.

    A possible rewrite might say this: I have come to make you separate the details.

Daniel 10:15-18 When he had spoken to me according to these words, I turned my face toward the ground and became speechless. 16) And behold, one who resembled a human being was touching my lips; then I opened my mouth and spoke and said to him who was standing before me, “O my lord, as a result of the vision anguish has come upon me, and I have retained no strength. 17) “For how can such a servant of my lord talk with such as my lord? As for me, there remains just now no strength in me, nor has any breath been left in me.” 18) Then this one with human appearance touched me again and strengthened me.

  • He – Gabriel

    Who did Daniel see in 10:5? Jesus and we have made this apparent.

    However, because of what we saw in verse 13, Gabriel now before him, I can make the assumption that Gabriel is the one with “human appearance” touching Daniel again.

    Our presumption is that angels have wings. Balaam eventually saw the angel standing in the narrow pathway and all he saw was a sword intended for his death.

Daniel 10:19, 20 He said, “O man of high esteem, do not be afraid. Peace be with you; take courage and be courageous!” Now as soon as he spoke to me, I received strength and said, “May my lord speak, for you have strengthened me. Then he said, “Do you understand why I came to you? But I shall now return to fight against the prince of Persia; so I am going forth, and behold, the prince of Greece is about to come.”

  • Then he said, “Do you understand why I came to you?”

  • But I shall now return to fight against the prince of Persia; so I am going forth, and behold, the prince of Greece is about to come.”

    Previously, we were told about the Prince of Persia, now, we learn about the prince of Greece. Having an understanding about the kingdoms of this world gives you some insight into the world of the demonic. These fallen angels have ranks and territories.

Daniel 10:21 “However, I will tell you what is inscribed in the writing of truth. Yet there is no one who stands firmly with me against these forces except Michael your prince.

What, is the “writing of truth?” I see nothing outside of Daniel that defines this. There are, however, things like this: 

Psalms 119:160 NASB The sum of Your word is truth, And every one of Your righteous ordinances is everlasting.

Revelation 22:19 NASB and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book.

While the obvious fact is: there are books that God keeps, it seems these are documentations of merciful acts performed by people, used by God to show mercy at the end of time.

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