Men speaking twisted things – a commentary on false teaching.


When Paul was saying his final goodbyes to the elders from Ephesus, he warned them to pay careful attention to themselves. Why? Well he answers that question:

I know that after my departure fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; and from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things, to draw away the disciples after them. (Acts 20:29-30 ESV)

The aspect that should get our attention and cause us the most alarm, because it is so subtle, is this part that says, “from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things.” The translations run the gamut from perverse to just plain wrong.

The scariest part of this is the subtlety of the situation. Because this person comes from among us, we do not expect them to fill our eyes and ears with perversion. Is it a perversion like pornography is a perversion? No, it can be a subtle twisting of the gospel, or the occasional adding of words as though they were part of God’s original thought. Allow me to give you an example.

I attend Bible Study Fellowship.

I have always had the impression that anyone who attended BSF was into a university level bible study; I know I am, but what I have found is that there are both skillful members and those who do not open their bibles, but because we have guided questions we are all able to get to a comparable result when we answer.

However I have met with a problem that comes from the top. My expectations were dashed with our recent reading assignment which was generated by the high counsel in Texas.

We were directed by the “homework” to read Deuteronomy (13:1-5;18:18-22). These texts , they allege, “offer five key tests for a true prophet.” If this seems like a fair statement to you, then you need to know it seemed fair to me too, and I was interested in finding out what they had to say; that is until I read the statements that they derived from these verses.

  1. He must be an Israelite” (18:18).

On the worksheet my immediate response was NO! Now, why would I have that understanding? Because I read my bible, but I was willing to go to the source given, as should you, as I need to be humble and I am human capable of error. So allow me to show you what that verse says:

I will start with the old school version.

I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brothers, one like you, and will put My words in His mouth. And He shall speak to them all that I shall command Him.” (Deuteronomy 18:18 MKJV)

I am struck by some obvious questions as I read this.

  • Who is doing the talking?

  • Who are they talking to?

  • Who are the brethren?

  • Does anything about this place limitations upon prophecy?

  • And what is the context of the conversation?

None of those questions can legitimately be answered based upon this scripture alone. As you might surmise, the answers to the questions are there in scripture, and if I were writing out the statements I would have directed you more appropriately.

On my computer I have about forty translations of the bible. The majority say something comparable to the what I have shown you, and of those, none say anything to indicate that prophets have to be exclusively an Israelite.

If you have the ability to do a comparative look at scriptures, as I do, then you can find one that fits your theology, and the God’s Word bible is one of those. Check this out:

Deuteronomy 18:18 GW So I will send them a prophet, an Israelite like you. I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him. (This translation is comparable to the Living Bible, which was written simplistically so the authors grade school children could understand. I would not base my life on it, but at times it works.)

Does that make it right? They have taken a word that has the potential to be translated as not only brethren, but countrymen, and distant relatives. If this verse is speaking of Jesus, and I truly believe it is, then is it true that God raised up another prophet that was an Israelite? Yes. Does that mean that the limitations of the phrase, “an Israelite like you” is proper? No, and when you look at this verse in the majority of the translations, you do not get a sense of limitation, but freedom and potential. Sadly, potential is not what BSF wants to convey. They – like radio teacher Hank Hannegraf – apparently want you to believe prophecy is only through scripture and that there is no one walking this earth today speaking as a prophet.

  1. He (the prophet) must pronounce his predictions in the name of the Lord. (18:19)

Allow me to start off with a little piece of wisdom. If you do the religious thing, and say, “thus saith the Lord” you have just placed a pre-qualifier upon what you say and there is no way to separate the man from the message. God gives stern warnings about people who attribute something to God when he did not give the message. It is highly possible that you are just speaking out of your own personal frustrations in a desire to make things go your way. Try using phrases such as: I believe I hear this in my spirit; I think I have a Word for you. Let them be the judge of whether it is from God. Besides that, I can assure you that God has already been speaking to them and he has only sent you to confirm his Word to them.

The passage they refer to is this:

Deuteronomy 18:19 ESV And whoever will not listen to my words that he shall speak in my name, I myself will require it of him.

If the word was legitimately from God he will make it come to pass, and hold the recipient responsible for not appropriately responding to it. It is not your job to make anything happen.

This verse has nothing to do with you, and is very much wrapped up in Jewish tradition. Lighten up just a shade. If you think you are a prophet know this, God is not and will not ask you to carry a sword, and like Samuel the prophet, go hack up a king. We are walking this earth – wise as serpents, and gentle as doves.

  1. He (the prophet) must be able to predict the near and distant future. (18:22)

This is another example of impossible demands, that make either think acting in the prophetic is hopeless, or certainly not for today. In a few minutes you will see that BSF twists the word of God to convey that the man must conform to the message. They take this from Revelation where it says:

Revelation 19:10 ESV “ ….. For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

This verse merely conveys that God’s Words, coming out of your mouth, are in essence, the spirit of prophecy. You do not have to jump through hoops to speak prophetically to people. I can almost assure you that if you are listening to the Holy Spirit, that He will surprise even you, as the recipient will say, how did you know that?

God has always chosen the broken to lead his kingdom. His character has not changed, and I can say with confidence that there is no such qualifier that says you “must be able to predict the near and distant future.” The verse they try to pull this out of is:

Deuteronomy 18:22 ESV when a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the LORD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him.

So you finally get bold enough to speak out; perhaps declaring that someone you care about who could have no children will have a baby. Sadly, it does not happen. That just means that it was not from the Lord, but out of the concern of your heart. I get it, and so does God, but God does not have to work according to our plans and hopes. And nothing says that God would not hear you and because he is God respond anyway.

When the prophet Samuel walked this earth, my bible says, that none of his words fell to the ground. EVERYTHING he said came to pass, even the simple quiet curses we fling about, like damn this or that. He was so zealous for the Lord that he hacked up King Agag when Saul, Israel’s King would not. When he quietly went to anoint one of Jesse’s sons as king, the elders, out of fear asked, “do you come in peace?” They legitimately feared him. You do not need people fearing you, you need them seeking you out, but they should certainly respect the God you serve. That will only happen when you live a consistent life in front of them.

  1. His signs and wonders must be attributed to the power of the Lord (13:1-2)

Initially it sounds good, why it’s probably even sound wisdom to attribute what you are saying, to the Lord. Are you sincere? Do you attribute what you saying, before or after you say it?

Look at the verse and tell me if it says what BSF claims it does:

Deuteronomy 13:1-2 ESV “If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, (2) and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, ‘Let us go after other gods,’ which you have not known, ‘and let us serve them,’

Let’s tear the verse apart and see.

    • “If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, (2) and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass

Our admonition was not to fear the prophet if what he says does not come to pass, but in this case his word did come to pass. There is the strong possibility that this guy is among you and up to this point, trusted.

    • and if he says, ‘Let us go after other gods,’ which you have not known, ‘and let us serve them,”

The context of the verses is not about a demand that your signs and wonders must be attributed to God, as it is about leading people away from God.

  1. His words must conform to the message or principles of previous revelation (13:2-5)

Let’s just assume for a minute that you walked into the room and this person is prophesying. Number one: you may have missed his introduction where he said, this is from the voice of God. However you do catch the part where they say, a meteor will blow up over Tanguska Russia tomorrow, and it does, but you have no knowledge of what the message was, or of any previous revelations. How could you possibly find out that this person conformed? You couldn’t, so they must be trying to tell us that the prophet must conform to some message from God’s word, or some underlying principles that must be mined from God’s word, that somehow align with what this person said.

Let me give you a hint. There is nothing new under the sun, nor is there nothing new under God’s Son. What does that mean? While there are exceptions to everything, such as a word of knowledge that is given to a person where God has given you some current or past information about that person. You won’t find that information in the Bible, but generalized statements about how God feels about us, his people, and future events are very detailed in scripture. Since the testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of prophecy, then speaking God’s word over someones life is very scriptural, proper, and safe. In this case you would clearly be conforming to the message and earlier revelation.

Now, can we find this in the scripture reference given:

Deuteronomy 13:2-5 NIV and if the sign or wonder spoken of takes place, and the prophet says, “Let us follow other gods” (gods you have not known) “and let us worship them,” (3) you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The LORD your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. (4) It is the LORD your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him. (5) That prophet or dreamer must be put to death for inciting rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery. That prophet or dreamer tried to turn you from the way the LORD your God commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil from among you.

First thing I want you to see, is that there is a context for everything, and in this case they have cut the context out, so let’s include it.

Deuteronomy 13:1 NIV If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a sign or wonder,

So a person speaks over the audience about a potential future event. Some find that weird, but it is perfectly legitimate. Television personalities have made prophesying a bit of a joke, but they can still be okay.

If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a sign or wonder, and if the sign or wonder spoken of takes place”. This alone should command respect, or at the least, attention. Now if it did not come to pass, then we do not have to fear them. Does that mean if the thing comes to pass we are to fear them? No, the word also means to respect.

Unfortunately this takes a dark and sinister turn.

and the prophet says, “Let us follow other gods” (gods you have not known) “and let us worship them,” So this so-called prophet has another motive. Do we have examples of things like this in scripture? Certainly.

Acts 13:6-11 shows us, not only someone on the inside, but when you ask, did he “conform to the message or principles of previous revelation.” The answer is clearly NO, and yet he was identified by Saul/Paul as a false prophet. Since we have this improper demand to judge a persons prophetic “gifts” based upon BSF criteria, then how could Paul come to a decision so quickly, as he did not have these written guidelines? An obvious answer to this lies in testimony of locals, the character of Bar-Jesus, and Bar-Jesus’ own words and actions (we like to think of this combination of things as fruit, and the man’s fruit was rotten.)

Acts 13:6-11 ESV When they had gone through the whole island as far as Paphos, they came upon a certain magician, a Jewish false prophet named Bar-Jesus. (7) He was with the proconsul, Sergius Paulus, a man of intelligence, who summoned Barnabas and Saul and sought to hear the word of God. (8) But Elymas the magician (for that is the meaning of his name) opposed them, seeking to turn the proconsul away from the faith. (9) But Saul, who was also called Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit, looked intently at him (10) and said, “You son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness, full of all deceit and villainy, will you not stop making crooked the straight paths of the Lord? (11) And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon you, and you will be blind and unable to see the sun for a time.” Immediately mist and darkness fell upon him, and he went about seeking people to lead him by the hand.

Bar-Jesus/Elymas did that one thing that is clearly laid out for us as something to warn and alert us; he tried to turn the proconsul away from the faith. Deuteronomy lays out a course of action for such men, but Paul prophesy’s a blindness over Elymas for a season. Did Paul’s response conform to the message or principles of previous revelation? Perhaps but you have to dig to find a directive like that.

One other thing that challenges this directive “conform to the message or principles of previous revelation” comes from what we know about Elisha, the prophet.

2 Kings 2:23-24 ESV He went up from there to Bethel, and while he was going up on the way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him, saying, “Go up, you baldhead! Go up, you baldhead!” (24) And he turned around, and when he saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. And two she-bears came out of the woods and tore forty-two of the boys.

Boys mocked him, and for that “he cursed them in the name of the LORD.Not everything is so cut and dried.

Since point number (5) directs us to think a certain way – “his words must conform to the message or principles of previous revelation” – let’s ponder that a moment. Clearly that is not the case in Revelation 13:11-14. While the verses give us multiple images to tangle with, the bottom line is this, this is the false prophet that we are warned about in scripture.

Revelation 13:11-14 MKJV (11) And I saw another beast coming up out of the earth. And it had two horns like a lamb, and he spoke like a dragon. (12) And it exercises all the authority of the first beast before him, and causes the earth and those dwelling in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. (13) And it does great wonders, so that it makes fire come down from the heaven onto the earth in the sight of men. (14) And it deceives those dwelling on the earth, because of the miracles which were given to it to do before the beast, saying to those dwelling on the earth that they should make an image to the beast who had the wound by a sword and lived.

Because of the miracles which were given to it to do, it deceives those dwelling on earth. Watch how deep this goes.

Revelation 13:16-17 ESV Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name.

When you sort out all the implications of what Revelation 13 is showing us, ultimately God is in control and allowing this all to happen because He has a purpose. The character that empowers this person directly is the dragon – which you should know because you read – is Satan himself. Now, is Satan going to comply with BSF rules or God’s demands? No, he is going to do the opposite. (Note: there is power in the name of JESUS, and every knee must bow. Let that empower you.)

When we talk about the idea of “conforming to the message or principles of previous revelation”, this has Jewish tradition written all over it, because to the Jew, prophecy is pattern. What does that mean to us – the New Testament church? It means that the Apostle John knew full well that he was writing to Jewish converts, and that they were not going to give up the richness of their Jewish heritage. It means that what we see here in Revelation 13 had to have already presented itself on at least one other occasion, and it had, and we find him in Daniel 7:25.

Daniel 7:25 KJV And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Alright, so you read this and now you are saying, Daniel 7:25 does not define what we see in Revelation 13. It does if you understand that Islam has its own set of prophecies, and fully expects a Jesus to come and save them as well. Their Jesus (I am pulling this from Wikipedia):

“ʿĪsā ibn Maryām; English: Jesus, son of Mary is considered to be a Messenger of God and (the Messiah) in Islam. To aid in his ministry to the Jewish people, Jesus was given the ability to perform miracles (such as healing various ailments like blindness, raising the dead to life, casting out demons, etc.) which no other prophet in Islam has ever been credited with, all according to God’s will. According to the Qu’ran, Jesus, although appearing to have been crucified, was not killed by crucifixion or by any other means. This view disagrees with the foundation of the Gospel. Instead, the Qu’ran says “God raised him unto Himself,” which happens to agree with the Gospel message of Isa ascending into heaven.

Jesus mission – According to Islamic texts, Jesus was divinely chosen to preach the message of monotheism and submission to the will of God to the Children of Israel (banī isrā’īl).”

So the Islamic Jesus will “preach” the message of submission to the people of Israel. Since we know that Islam demands only a submission to Allah, then this “Jesus” will demand submission also. How would that work out since they are not allowed to be “friends” with the infidel? It is said in Islam that this “Jesus” is a Jew from the Levitical tribe and is a priest. That means he is already here and probably in training to serve in the new temple. Since he is a priest, and a respected Jew, causing Israel to turn away from God and serve other gods should be relatively easy. Since he is a priest serving in the temple, it should be easy for him to desecrate the temple, set up the image of the beast, and because he is empowered by Satan, cause that image to speak, call fire down from heaven, command the rain to return, and do what ever is necessary to impress and delude Israel. Islam considers this man the enforcer of Sharia law (ISIS, it seems, is doing that right now.) Sharia is the law that demands the death of the infidel (anyone outside of Islam.) Perhaps you can understand why God gives this character the title of false prophet, as he is everything bad wrapped into one package, and he comes from inside.

I opened with these words from Paul:

I know that after my departure fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; and from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things, to draw away the disciples after them. (Acts 20:29-30 ESV)

Although the false prophet seems to be blatantly obvious, he will spring upon them suddenly, after having been groomed slowly. But what about the not so obvious that is destroying and weakening the body of Christ from the inside.

It is not all so blatant, it comes from bastions of biblical learning like Bible Study Fellowship, where men go to learn a more excellent way. It comes from the local bible study teacher who twists God’s word so that it conveys the message he wants to push, such as what lousy sinners we all are. It comes in a way that teaches people to think improperly about God, never learn what His character is, and then spread that hatred to others. It teaches people to believe that God cannot be understood, and that ultimately His character, if filled with mercy, is beyond our comprehension.

Since God himself said:

Matthew 18:12-14 ESV What do you think? If a man has a hundred sheep, and one of them has gone astray, does he not leave the ninety-nine on the mountains and go in search of the one that went astray? (13) And if he finds it, truly, I say to you, he rejoices over it more than over the ninety-nine that never went astray. (14) So it is not the will of my Father who is in heaven that one of these little ones should perish.

How dare you preach anything else.

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It had two horns like a lamb. Revelation 13:11-18


Then I saw another beast rising out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, and it spoke like a dragon.

This aspect is another that gives people grief.

Some information that might help you understand. The Apostle John is not writing mysteries meant to be hidden from the church. They are hidden from those that chose not to ask what things mean, and they tend to remain hidden from those who do not understand that John’s target audience was Jewish converts. I will prove my point.

“He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who conquers, I will grant to eat of the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.’ “And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write: ‘The words of the first and the last, who died and came to life. “‘I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich) and the slander of those who say that they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.” (Revelation 2:7-9 ESV)

The Spirit has him writing to churches. You do not need to have a conversation about Jews and their traditions unless they are a part of the equation, and in Smyrna, they were. The IVPBBC states, “The strength of the Jewish community in Smyrna is well attested.”

Another example from James which will show us how widespread the Jewish converts were comes from James 2:2. It is cloaked thanks to the translators who seemed to push their motives upon us.

James 2:2 ESV “For if a man wearing a gold ring and fine clothing comes into your assembly, and a poor man in shabby clothing also comes in,”

Translated for the Gentile reader, we see nothing wrong with the word assembly. People assemble themselves together frequently. However, when this was written by James, he actually wrote the Greek word for synagogue. He did not do that inadvertently, thinking that in time it would be filled with Gentile believers. He, too, was writing to Jewish converts.

sunagōgē – an assemblage of persons, the majority of which are Jewish in origin.

Now, isn’t that something? Paul used the same word (sunagōgē).

If they are calling it a synagogue, then what do they expect to find there?

Jewish converts, but not only that, converts that are integrating the richness of their newly found Messiah into the heritage that makes them special (and we ignore that.)

Who were the two Apostles that seemed to be called to the Gentiles?

Peter – who seemed to end that mission shortly after going to the Centurion’s home, and Paul. Paul initially made all his forays into the synagogues, so it is safe to say that in the beginnings of the church, the direct impact was on the Jewish community. When hardcore traditionalists came around trying to demand that Gentile converts be circumcised and follow other Jewish traditions, Paul took his arguments straight to the council of elders in Jerusalem for a decision.

And after there had been much debate, Peter stood up and said to them, “Brothers, you know that in the early days’ God made a choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. And God, who knows the heart, bore witness to them by giving them the Holy Spirit just as he did to us, and he made no distinction between them and us, having cleansed their hearts by faith. (Acts 15:7-9 ESV)

Notice the terminology Peter uses as he distinguishes between the Jew and the gentile. Years later, Peter is still referring to them (the gentiles) and us (the Jewish community).

There, in the Jerusalem council, the decision was made to acknowledge freedom but stay away from blood:

Acts 15:19-20 ESV Therefore, my judgment is that we should not trouble those of the Gentiles who turn to God (20) but should write to them to abstain from the things polluted by idols, and from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood.

The synagogue of Satan?

Pastor John MacArthur says this of the – synagogue of Satan. With the rejection of its Messiah, Judaism became as much a tool of Satan as emperor worship.

Think about this for a moment. You should be able to see how Judaism could become a tool of Satan. It was the thing (a zeal for the law) that motivated young Saul/Paul to chase down converts, then beat, imprison, and in Stephen’s case – stone them to death.

When Paul had trouble on his missionary journeys, where did most of it come from?

The Jews, but not just any Jew, for some of his converts were synagogue leaders. Look at this.

Act 14:2 But the unbelieving Jews stirred up the Gentiles and poisoned their minds against the brothers.

This is not the act of people who merely cannot understand. They are choosing not to buy into this Messiah thing Paul preached. How many of them were around when Jesus spoke of God as his Father? This statement would have been blasphemous in their hearing if it was not true, but it was. They chose to be unbelieving Jews and therefore combative in their resistance to truth and change.

Since I have told you this, you now need to start thinking like a Jew – A Jew that has a reasonable comprehension of the Old Testament (something that would have been required of a Jew.)

Are you beginning to get the idea that our lack of studying the scriptures has done little more than hurt us?

Now maybe we can understand what John was trying to convey.

One other thing. (I need to state this upfront, even though you will find it in the text again.)

To the Jew, prophecy is a pattern.
When someone operating in the role of a prophet declares something, all we can do is hold it in the back of our minds. Of course, that all changes if the impact should be immediately seen. Later on, another prophecy comes and validates not only the first prophet but the word itself. (There are parameters upon which to judge a prophecy, the biggest is – is it trying to lead us away from God to serve other gods.) The Jewish mind understood all of this. They are not impressed with the waving of hands and fancy words, and the Apostle John knew this as well. That is why in almost every case (some are harder to find than others), these are words that have been spoken over the Jews on a previous occasion.

We are focusing on Revelation 13:11-18.

“Then I saw another beast rising out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, and it spoke like a dragon. It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence and makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose mortal wound was healed. It performs great signs, even making fire come down from heaven to earth in front of people, and by the signs that it is allowed to work in the presence of the beast, it deceives those who dwell on earth, telling them to make an image for the beast that was wounded by the sword and yet lived. And it was allowed to give breath to the image of the beast so that the image of the beast might even speak and might cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be slain. Also, it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666.” (Revelation 13:11-18 ESV)

    • Then I saw another beast rising out of the earth

Since our first beast rose out of the sea, and we know that the sea represents people, we can learn that the first beast comes out of an environment that is more widespread. This second beast, rising out of the earth, demonstrates that he is from a more localized area, but where?

    • It had two horns like a lamb

If you are not a farmer, then you probably do not know that sheep have horns. We just went to the county fair. This year they had four sheep with horns, and two of them were massive.

To the Jewish convert, the perception that this means deception is immediate.

lamb with horns

A lamb with horns

The fact that it is like a lamb establishes that it is representing itself to some degree, as Jesus did, at first gentle and caring, but then at the three-and-a-half-year mark of the seven-year period – watch out.

If we were Jewish converts, what would be our immediate association?

Perhaps Genesis 22:8, where Abraham said, “God will provide for himself the lamb ..” The idea of the slain lamb as a way of removing sin was scattered throughout the Torah and a common practice for the Jews. However, the impact of the slain lamb – in tradition – was a good thing, and we already recognize that there is a horrendous deception coming. We all also have the imagery seen earlier in Revelation and that explicitly Jesus, the Messiah standing there.

Revelation 5:6 ESV And between the throne and the four living creatures and among the elders I saw a Lamb standing, as though it had been slain, with seven horns and with seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent out into all the earth.

A deception that no one would have seen coming.

Islam is looking for a Jesus as well.

I wrote this post in 2017, but about two years ago, I had no clue, and I struggled to comprehend this just like everyone else. Thankfully, the Holy Spirit saw fit to put Glenn Beck (he used to be on Fox news and now has his own internet show) before my eyes. Glenn had the author Joel Richardson on the show, comparing Jesus to Islam’s Mahdi. To say the least, I was shocked. Within minutes I ordered the book Joel had written called, The Islamic Antichrist, and it changed everything for me.

Now you can see how you have to humble yourself to learn on occasions, for according to their prophecies, the false prophet, although they do not call him that, will be a Jew of the lineage of Aaron and therefore allowed to be a priest. He will also declare himself to be a Muslim, bow to the Mahdi (the Antichrist), and do significant signs like calling fire down from heaven, raising the dead, and causing it to rain again. All this will cause many to turn from God and follow this second beast. The deception will be great. He will also be the enforcer of Sharia; this coincides with the tribulation becoming greater. Considering what we have seen, how could tribulations become greater unless it is in the number of killings. Islam will proactively begin killing anyone who is not a Muslim.

    • and it spoke like a dragon

Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.

It speaks like Satan – the deceiver.

Let this sink in. He presents himself as peaceful, almost like Jesus, but he speaks like Satan. And. in case you hadn’t noticed, Satan does not present himself like the garbage we see in movies; he is subtle and seductive. Eve found that out – that is until Satan goes into fury mode.

Revelation 13:6 ESV “It opened its mouth to utter blasphemies against God, blaspheming his name and his dwelling, that is, those who dwell in heaven.”

Revelation 12:17 ESV “Then the dragon became furious with the woman and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus. And he stood on the sand of the sea.”

I wanted you to see that Satan can and does become furious. The idea of making war on “her” offspring will be developed as we go.

    • It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence. 

This is a timing issue, and it is difficult to be precise.

What does it mean to be precise when you are God, the creator of time?

We know that there will be a seven-year period of destruction upon the earth, and the clock seems to start with the removal of the church from the earth (the rapture). There seems to be an immediate entrance of a “world” leader. Islam calls him the Mahdi, the 12th or hidden Imam, the leader of the global Islamic caliphate. We call him the Antichrist or the first beast.

This entrance of the second beast – the one that has horns like a lamb – seems to be at the midpoint of the seven-year period.

Why say that?

Because there is a rapid escalation of events at the mid-point and, though we will go into more depth shortly, our false prophet who has operated quietly in the temple, suddenly gives himself over to this Mahdi, performs the signs, and steps up as the enforcer of this disgusting and bloody sharia law.

Everyone seems to know that the Antichrist will sign a peace treaty. We keep saying it will be with Israel, but scripture says, is that it will be with many. That may not include Israel. My guess is that none of us would have thought that Russia and China would be in Syria fighting against Isis. Russia believes that defending Bashar Assad is key to defeating Isis, while President Obama is set on removing the Syrian President from power. (There are many good theories on what this is all about, and most have to do with the Federal Reserve Bank.) So, while the Antichrist may be juggling aspects of his worldwide deception, this second beast steps up and handles the enforcement aspect for him.

    • and makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose mortal wound was healed.

This Jew turned Muslim, temple priest turned desecrater, deceiver on a grand scale, makes all the earth worship the first beast.

I need you to consider the description of the beast once again.

And I saw a beast rising out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads, with ten diadems on its horns and blasphemous names on its heads. And the beast that I saw was like a leopard; its feet were like a bear’s, and its mouth was like a lion’s mouth. And to it, the dragon gave his power and his throne and great authority. One of its heads seemed to have a mortal wound, but its mortal wound was healed, and the whole earth marveled as they followed the beast. (Revelation 13:1-3 ESV)

Multi-headed, with ten horns and seven heads, it looks like a leopard, a lion, and a bear. However bizarre this thing seems to be it is given a mouth; in other words – a spokesman – the Antichrist.

In the world of clues, this is huge, “One of its heads seemed to have a mortal wound, but its mortal wound was healed,” First, there is no such animal; second, Daniel plainly defined the Babylonian empire as the first of these heads. Historically we know that the Medo-Persian empire was the second, and the Grecian empire was the third. Since we now know, we are looking at empires and not a human as the head, what one empire fits this description better than any other? The answer is the Ottoman empire, and the world thought they were finally killed off in 1924. Guess what? They came back to life in 1979 with the Iranian revolution.

Considering how peculiar this “beast” is, what image would you make for it?

Perhaps you would focus on the “mouth.”

This is not so clear, is it?

Whatever this guy decides, he will make an image of it and will demand that all the inhabitants of earth worship it.

I used to think that it would be impossible to effectively force the world to worship a man or an image and take some form of a mark. While I could see how Islam might have dominion over the Middle East, you would never be able to enforce this nonsense over a Modern nation.

But what have we seen in the last couple of years?

An Islamic invasion, first in the European nations, and now President Obama (he was the President in 2017 when I wrote this) wants to take thousands of them into this nation. Thousand of people that we now know were interspersed with veteran Jihad fighters, and that what they are doing is a form of Jihad/warfare. Combine that with Islam’s gradual infiltration of government (another form of Jihad) while they are making quiet inroads into establishing Sharia law as the law of the land. At that point, they will give themselves free rein to slaughter outsiders – infidels.

    • It performs great signs, even making fire come down from heaven to earth in front of people

What has been going on all this time?

Let me point something out that most do not catch.

“And I will grant authority to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.” These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands that stand before the Lord of the earth. And if anyone would harm them, fire pours from their mouth and consumes their foes. If anyone would harm them, this is how he is doomed to be killed. They have the power to shut the sky so that no rain may fall during the days of their prophesying, and they have power over the waters to turn them into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they desire. And when they have finished their testimony, the beast that rises from the bottomless pit will make war on them and conquer them and kill them, and their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city that symbolically is called Sodom and Egypt, where their Lord was crucified. For three and a half days some from the peoples and tribes and languages and nations will gaze at their dead bodies and refuse to let them be placed in a tomb, and those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them and make merry and exchange presents because these two prophets had been a torment to those who dwell on the earth. But after the three and a half days, a breath of life from God entered them, and they stood up on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them. Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here!” And they went up to heaven in a cloud, and their enemies watched them.” (Revelation 11:3-12 ESV)

God sends his two witnesses.

There is speculation on who they are, but is it really that important that we know who they are?

What is important is what they do, what they say, and when they get here. I happen to believe they show up right after the rapture, and here is the significant reason – they stop the rain. Why is that a big deal because this second beast, the false prophet, causes the rain to come back again? They also perform signs, and the false prophet mimics those also. Remember that I said that prophecy to the Jew is a pattern. Well, what happened immediately after Moses brought each plague upon Egypt? The sorcerers in Pharaoh’s court copied exactly what Moses and Aaron did. Pattern!

  • and by the signs that it is allowed to work in the presence of the beast, it deceives those who dwell on earth, 

Look at what it prompted Jesus to say:

If this man is as Islam describes: A Jew; of the lineage of Aaron; a priest in the new temple; a man who is respected/revered, and then does all this stuff, working signs, causing it to rain; telling elite Jews that all along they have followed the wrong god and that Allah is god, not Elohim. What will that do?

It will cause many to be deceived. Look at what it prompted Jesus to say:

Matthew 24:4-5 ESV And Jesus answered them, “See that no one leads you astray. (5) For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray.

This part, “the signs that it is allowed to work in the presence of the beast,” puzzles me, for it implies that he has to have permission from the beast to do the damage we see. Consider once again what Islam believes about this guy:

The Subordinate Of The Mahdi

Borrowed from the website:

http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/JR/Future/ch06_the_muslim_jesus.htm

“At this time, Jesus descends to meet the army of the Mahdi, which will be preparing for battle. It will be just before the time of prayer.

Muslims will still be preparing themselves for the battle drawing up the ranks. Certainly, the time of prayer shall come, and then Jesus, son of Mary, would descend.

Based on the relevant Hadith, Islamic scholars seem to be in universal agreement that the Mahdi will ask Jesus to lead the prayers. Jesus will then refuse this request and will defer instead to the Mahdi to lead the prayer.

The Messenger of Allah said: A section of my people will not cease fighting for the truth and will prevail until the Day of resurrection. He said: Jesus son of Mary would then descend, and their [Muslims’] commander [the Mahdi] would invite him to come and lead them in prayer, but he would say: No, some amongst you are commanders over some.

The important element here that needs to be stressed is that Jesus will then pray behind the Mahdi as a direct statement regarding Jesus’ inferiority of rank to the Mahdi.

Jesus Christ will decline the offer and invitation of Imam Mahdi to come and lead the Muslims in prayer and say his prayer behind Imam Mahdi. Jesus (peace be upon him) will come and will perform the obligatory prayers behind the Mahdi and follow him. (Jesus) will be following the Mahdi, the master of the time, and that is why he will be offering his prayers behind him.”

Jesus, The Faithful Muslim

“After Jesus returns, in keeping with his identity as a faithful Muslim, he will perform the ritual pilgrimage to Mecca called hajj: The Prophet said: Verily Isa ibn Maryam shall descend as an equitable judge and fair ruler. He shall tread his path on the way to hajj (pilgrimage) and come to my grave to greet me, and I shall certainly answer him!”

Jesus Will Institute Islamic Law

“While the Mahdi, as the Caliph (vice-regent) and Imam (leader) of the Muslims, is clearly seen as being a superior to Jesus, Jesus is still said to be a leader of the Muslim Community. According to the Islamic traditions, Jesus’ primary purpose will be to oversee the institution and the enforcement of the Islamic Shariah law all over the world.”

So Islam believes that their version of Jesus will be subservient to Islam’s Mahdi. This is clearly NOT THE SON OF GOD. Do you also begin to get a grasp of why God calls this time a time of wrath, fury, anger, and destruction?

  • And it was allowed to give breath to the image of the beast so that the image of the beast might even speak and might cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be slain.

It,” this second beast, the false prophet, is allowed to give breath – life – to an image. An image of something we cannot legitimately define as yet.

If you have never been to Disneyland, Walt’s engineers used audio-animatronics and built a very good replica of Abraham Lincoln. When you walked in, this big puppet would be sitting with his eyes closed as though he was resting. Within seconds he would open his eyes, stand to his feet, greet you, then begin to give the Gettysburg address, with all the corresponding motions you might expect.

I do not know what this image will look like; perhaps it will be a hologram of the Mahdi himself so that people believe that the Mahdi is giving them commands. Regardless, the outcome will be deadly for those who refuse to comply with the demands this image will make.

  • Also, it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name.

If you think about how Islam deals with infidels, they are not that high-tech, are they?

This idea that outsiders cannot work freely in an Islamic-controlled land is not a new concept. Look at what the Qur’an says:

Qur’an (9:29) – “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”

Headband exalting Allah as god, and Muhammad as his messenger.

Headband exalting Allah as god, and Muhammad as his messenger.

A young Brit who has joined the Mujahid in London, and wears an armband to signify which team he is on.

A young Brit who has joined the Mujahideen in London and wears an armband to signify which team he is on.

Jews, forced into the ghettos of Poland, were given marks, and they were not allowed to do anything without the yellow star that said Juden on them. Few realize that there were many colors used to denigrate people groups under the direction of the Nazis.

A puzzling aspect of this prophetic word is the reference to this 666 indicator and how it is the number of a man. For a moment, I thought Walid Shoebat sounded good, as he described how it looked like the Arabic symbols meaning there is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is his messenger. I am not sure, and I am not willing to play with Gematria. So if there is one thing in Revelation that throws me for a loop, it is this 666 stuff. We already know it is a man; I am confident that it will be someone fulfilling the role of the Mahdi; they will head the restored Islamic caliphate, but who it is, is anybody’s guess. For a few minutes, I thought Princip Erdogan of Turkey was going to take the lead in this role. We should not rule him out.

The passage reads:

This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666.

Contextually, John had just finished speaking about the image of the beast being set up, but as I said, we have too many options to define this as yet.

Your best bet is to stay ready, on God’s side. Start by having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. You do that by turning your life over to Him and asking Him to come to be the center of your life. Then work on trimming off the bad fruit you have grown. Jesus Christ knows how to do that.

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Those who keep the commandments of God. Revelation 14:9-12



I believe strongly that I serve a God of mercy.

How do I know that God is a God of mercy, especially when verses like Revelation 14:10 prove that God will send many to a burning, eternal hell? I know because he has shown mercy to me.

Do I have other evidence? Certainly, and some of it comes from Matthew 25:31-46. It is rather long and I do not want to take up the extra space here, so I implore you to take the time to read it on your own. The synopsis goes something like this:

  • Before him will be gathered all the nations

    You need to understand that there are only three people groups as far as God is concerned. The Jews, the nations, and the church. Since the church should be gone at this point, our religious minds tend to think that after the rapture there is NO ONE left on the earth that has a standardized relationship with Jesus Christ, and that is true. Now that does not exclude the innumerable number that come to acknowledge Him (in the face of death) and are resurrected as Saints and reign over the earth with Jesus during the thousand years.

  • This gathering of the nations takes place at the end of the thousand years and includes all the dead throughout time.

    You might ask, how do I know that? Use a little logic. The church, those who had a relationship with Jesus Christ, both living and dead, get retrieved at some point. (Matthew 25 points out that not everyone sitting in church gets retrieved.)

    Who then is left on earth? Most of the Jews, those from Matthew 25 who did not take this seriously enough and had no oil left in their lamps, and all those who have chosen to ignore God’s call to obtain His mercy. Those who reject God are considered the nations, it is that simple. In truth, anyone of those can switch sides: A Jew can become part of the church, and get this, people can come out of the nations and join themselves to the church – and most of us would never know it, as this action is not always advertised.

  • he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.”

    Sheep and a goat

    A sheep and a goat

    A goat on a sheep

    A goat on a sheep

    And he will place the sheep on his right, but the goats on the left. Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.

    Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you …. And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’”

  • Did you pick up on the term righteous? Did you see what made them righteous, doing something outside of selfish motivation. They helped people, and in so doing they “did it to Jesus himself.

  • but the goats on the left”

“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’

Now that I busted up your theology by demonstrating that God is merciful – even to those who do not fit within the religious framework – we can move on to the passage at hand.

“And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink the wine of God’s wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.” Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.” (Revelation 14:9-12 ESV)

As I pointed out in my earlier post there are three parts to this equation we simplistically call “taking the mark”.

  • If anyone worships the beast

  • and (worships) his image,

  • and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand,

    “he (the person that caves and does all three) also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, …. and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. …the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”

Having made this decision you will have effectively signed your life away.

Now here comes the part that is hard to understand: “Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.

Why even put this statement in here? God did it for a reason. This is another place you find God’s definition of a saint and it shows that they by their actions have demonstrated their allegiance to God and a faith in Jesus. Another reason may have much to do with the pressure that will be put on you to sell your soul. This is not a foreign concept to the Jew, for Esau sold his birthright for a bowl of soup. You must understand that to the Jew, prophecy is pattern, not flash and advertising.

Jacob said, “Sell me your birthright now.” Esau said, “I am about to die; of what use is a birthright to me?” Jacob said, “Swear to me now.” So he swore to him and sold his birthright to Jacob. Then Jacob gave Esau bread and lentil stew, and he ate and drank and rose and went his way. Thus Esau despised his birthright. (Genesis 25:31-34 ESV)

Have you seen some of the gory pictures that come out of the Islamic nations? They are hanging Christians and chopping people up with chainsaws; I do not want to ruin your meal so I am not going to show you those pictures, however, I have on occasions, asked the question, what would you do if they torture your kids in front of you? Would you deny Christ? It’s hard to even think about.

The passage says, “those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.” The word keep means to to watch over, to guard. The implications can be varied, but the idea here is focused on some pressure being put on you to give up your inheritance, much like Esau. What then does it mean to you? If you do not have a backbone now, how will you stand under pressure? You need Jesus!

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What do we religious folk always say? Revelation 14:9


What do we religious folk always say? Don’t take the mark, you will go to hell because of it!

It was not until recently that I heard someone read this verse with distinction; it was then that I understood that there are three parts to this unforgivable betrayal.

And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink the wine of God’s wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.” Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.”

(Revelation 14:9-12 ESV)

Here is what will happen if:

  1. you worship the beast

    What is it to worship? Worship here is the Greek word proskuneo – (meaning to kiss, like a dog licking his master’s hand); to fawn or crouch to, that is, (literally or figuratively) prostrate oneself in homage (do reverence to, adore): – worship.

    Where do we see this? People bowing to the pope, and Muslim men commanded by the Qu’ran, bow three times a day to Allah.

    Bowing to Allah. They do this three times a day, where ever they are.

    Bowing to Allah. They do this three times a day, where ever they are.

    Spain's King Juan Carlos kisses the ring of Pope Benedict XVI at Madrid's Barajas airport

    Spain’s King Juan Carlos kisses the ring of Pope Benedict XVI at Madrid’s Barajas airport

  2. and you worship the idol

    How does one portray the worshiping of an idol made to signify or resemble the beast, especially when the beast has the potential to be a demon (Allah), an ideology (Islam), or a man (the Mahdi)?

  3. and have the mark of the beast on your hand or forehead.

    Islam is not that high-tech that they will use chips; seeing as the United States government has sold its soul to be in the New World Order, they will demand chipping to buy and sell, but you have not sold your soul to the devil unless you also worship the beast and the idol.

    Let me try to show what you might be dealing with:

    Wearing a burka to show compliance.

    #2 A young Brit who has joined the Mujahid in London, and wears an armband to signify which team he is on.

    A young Brit who has joined the Mujahid in London, and wears an armband to signify which team he is on.

    – Wearing a Burka to show compliance

    –  Note the white guy, wearing an armband which states, There is no god but Allah, …

    #3 Shows you the fashionable head bands you can choose from.

    #3 Shows you the fashionable head bands you can choose from.

    – Fashionable headbands, again denoting that there is no god but Allah…

    Here it is September 15, 2015. The age of civilized man in a high-tech world. We are on the brink of nuclear destruction once again, and people, as usual, are fleeing tyranny by the thousands. Germany claims they can take in 500,000 refugees. There is only one small problem, we are taking in the bad guys right next to the decent and worthy. So how do the incoming refugees reward and thank the Germans? They hang banners on the overpass that say, “All your children will pray to Allah, or die!” See the image included.

    Demonstrating their gratitude for sanctuary, the Muslims hung this banner that says, all your children will pray to Allah or die.

    Demonstrating their gratitude for sanctuary, the Muslims hung this banner that says, all your children will pray to Allah or die.

I cannot say with a certainty that many of the things we see in Revelation are not already upon us. I can say with a certainty, that we are not under God’s wrath. The trigger for that is when the church is lifted from the earth. The book of Hebrews, in chapter nine, tells us that He is coming for those who are awaiting his return. I can tell you that many in church scoff at me, and say the same standard, thoughtless line we have heard for generations, people have said that He is coming for two thousand years. I suppose for me, it is the ability we have to pay attention to the signs, and they are all around us. If he comes while you are not looking for him, then you will have to endure what is to come. I really do not want you to have to go through that.

Try this: Tell him your sorry; that you are not in control, and you would like him too come in and take over. Tell him that you understand that Jesus Christ died for you and that you have a hope in heaven with the Father.

He will come into your life and make you His own. You will still have the right to make idiotic mistakes, and you will, but you can know that you still belong to him, just as I did.

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Babylon the Great – the long version. Revelation 14 verse 8.


Of the imagery we find in scripture Babylon is another that gives people grief.

If we try to define the Babylon we see in Revelation we have to ask, what is it and what are the implications for us?

Another angel, a second, followed, saying, “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great, she who made all nations drink the wine of the passion of her sexual immorality.”

(Revelation 14:8 ESV)

Can I obtain a clue from the passage itself?

  • Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great, ..”

    God had used Babylon to punish Israel for ignoring the Shemittah (times of rest and restoration), because of this they went into captivity for 70 years and might play a role in its utter destruction. Thanks to the interactions we have between Daniel and Nebuchadnezzar, we know that during the reign or Nebuchadnezzar Babylon was great. Daniel – in explaining the statue dream to Nebuchadnezzar – told him that he, as representing Babylon, was the head of gold.

    Daniel 2:37-38 ESV You, O king, the king of kings, to whom the God of heaven has given the kingdom, the power, and the might, and the glory, (38) and into whose hand he has given, wherever they dwell, the children of man, the beasts of the field, and the birds of the heavens, making you rule over them all–you are the head of gold.

    Nebuchadnezzar's statue

    Nebuchadnezzar’s statue

    Considering that Nebuchadnezzar had threatened to kill all the wise men if no one could tell him the dream and what it meant; it was probably the wiser choice to say, you are the head of gold. However this is not the case anymore.

    Can we make the connection between a Babylon that was once great and the modern-day world? No, so greatness carries a different connotation these days.

    Babylon, having served its purpose, was to receive God’s wrath.

    Jeremiah 51:29 ESV “The land trembles and writhes in pain, for the LORD’s purposes against Babylon stand, to make the land of Babylon a desolation, without inhabitant.

    Babylon today, surrounded by the city of Mosul in Iraq.

    Babylon today, surrounded by the city of Mosul in Iraq.

    When you read this it is easy to say, “that happened and therefore does not apply to today.” We see this same logic applied to the temple of the last days. Jesus predicted the destruction of the temple and Israel saw that happen in 70 A.D.; yet his words also applied to a time in the distant future where there would be a third temple. Therefore these words about Babylon could just as easily apply to a future time, a time which I happen to believe is upon us now.

    You might not be aware that Saddam Hussein, the late “president” of Iraq, was attempting a restoration of Babylon. He built one of his fortress-like residences on a hill just outside of Babylon along the Euphrates. Chuck Misler – author, evangelical Christian, Bible teacher, engineer, and former businessman. – told us that while active combat missions in Iraq were still ongoing, the military was running high-speed communications cables into Babylon. Does any of that literally mean that Babylon, as a city, would be resurrected to greatness? No, therefore we should be looking for something else, something more symbolic. I believe the key phrase here is “her sexual immorality”.

American soldiers at Babylon

American soldiers at Babylon

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A modern recreation of the famous Ishtar Gates of Babylon

Clearly Revelation 14:8 is speaking about a sensuality, and there is nothing sensual about the region in which Babylon is built. So the context has more to do with something spiritual. Bel Marduk might fit that bill.

  • …she who made all nations drink the wine of the passion of her sexual immorality.”

    Since things seemingly went well for Daniel, we assume that all went well for Israel. We also assume that Babylon was just a beautiful, fun-loving place, but that was not the case. If you think about the fact that they threw Daniel’s companions into the fire, then its easier to understand that evil lurked in the background.

    Babylon was conquered by successive empires, of which two are clearly defined: The Medo-Persian, and the Grecian empires. It is clear that something happened.

Now, what do we do with this cryptic sentence – “…she who made all nations drink the wine of the passion of her sexual immorality.” Apparently we know far too little about Babylon because Revelation focuses rather intently on the words sexual immorality.

The prophet Jeremiah spoke a word against Babylon:

Jeremiah 50:1-2 ESV The word that the LORD spoke concerning Babylon, concerning the land of the Chaldeans, by Jeremiah the prophet: (2) “Declare among the nations and proclaim, set up a banner and proclaim, conceal it not, and say: ‘Babylon is taken, Bel is put to shame, Merodach is dismayed. Her images are put to shame, her idols are dismayed.’

Commentary from the IVPBBC: Bel and Marduk. “The title Bel was applied to the supreme god of the Akkadian pantheon, which until the beginning of the second millennium B.C. was Enlil (the patron of the city of Nippur). After the emergence of Babylon as the chief city of Mesopotamia, the title was transferred to its patron deity, Marduk. Evidence of this succession to divine supremacy can be seen in Marduk’s prominent place in the Babylonian creation epic Enuma Elish and in the prologue to the Code of Hammurabi. In both instances, Marduk is said to have achieved the rank of chief god through his combative powers and the will of the other gods. The name Bel Marduk then continues to be used by the Assyrians and the Neo-Babylonians, and his New Year’s festival is the celebration of the renewal of fertility and life (see comment on Isa_46:1). Even the Persian king Cyrus looked at his own accession to power and the capture of the city of Babylon as having been achieved through the assistance of Bel Marduk. Connections in the northwest Semitic pantheon with Bel are to be found in the name Baal, also translated as “lord.”

Now again, the question is, how do I perceive and apply this?

Mark Hitchcock, in his book The Second Coming of Babylon, states rather simplistically, “The city and the tower (of Babylon*) represent the two aspects of Babylon that continue today: political power balanced against rebellion and apostasy.”

One can only speculate that the tower looked like this at some point

One can only speculate that the tower looked like this at some point

Mark Hitchcock continues, “The city they built represents the political unity of the city of Babylon. Babylon was a literal place, ruled over by a literal king who exercised political power over all the inhabitants of the world.

I had to think about this idea of political unity for a moment.

Babylon, a lasting global political power!?

I already pointed out that God decreed devastation upon Babylon. Common sense should tell you that Babylon’s ability to persist has to first be spiritual.

Many years after its establishment by Nimrod, and after the reign of Nebuchadnezzar, Babylon is captured by Cyrus, but this line from the IVPBBC is very telling:

Even the Persian king Cyrus looked at his own accession to power and the capture of the city of Babylon as having been achieved through the assistance of Bel Marduk

The generations of Noah

We are introduced to the beginnings of Babylon in Genesis chapter 10, when we are told about the generations of Noah. The son of Ham was Cush, and Cush fathered Nimrod.

Let’s explore this for a minute.

Genesis 10:8 ESV Cush fathered Nimrod; he was the first on earth to be a mighty man.

He was the first on earth to be a mighty man??

The word mighty in the Hebrew is: gibbôr powerful; by implication warrior, tyrantAnother instance of the word gibbôr used to depict a mighty man comes before the flood, and describes the Nephilim upon the earth.

Genesis 6:4 ESV The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown.

Most do not believe Nimrod to have been a giant as much as he was of a reckless ferocity.

Reckless ferocity – What names come to your mind? Og, the king of Bashan who may have been 13 feet tall; how about Genghis Khan, or Vlad the impaler.

How did Nimrod become the first on the earth to be a mighty man when clearly the earth was filled with violence and there were giants or mighty men prior to the flood?

Genesis 6:10-13 ESV And Noah had three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth. (11) Now the earth was corrupt in God’s sight, and the earth was filled with violence. (12) And God saw the earth, and behold, it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted their way on the earth. (13) And God said to Noah, “I have determined to make an end of all flesh, for the earth is filled with violence through them. Behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

Genesis 9:9 ESV “Behold, I establish my covenant with you and your offspring after you,

Genesis 10:1 ESV These are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Sons were born to them after the flood.

So Noah and his generations are the fresh start. It only took three generations for everything to go sour again.

Nimrod was the controlling authority and driving force behind the tower of Babel. That may or may not be the case, but it is clear that all known inhabitants were of the same mind and direction.

Genesis 10:8-10 ESV Cush fathered Nimrod; he was the first on earth to be a mighty man. (9) He was a mighty hunter before the LORD. Therefore it is said, “Like Nimrod a mighty hunter before the LORD.” (10) The beginning of his kingdom was Babel, Erech, Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.

Genesis 10:8-10 fills in a few blanks, for it tells us that Nimrod founded the towns of Babel, Erech, Accad (the Accadian race) and Calneh. All in the land of Shinar.

Genesis 11:1-4 ESV Now the whole earth had one language and the same words. And as people migrated from the east, they found a plain in the land of Shinar and settled there. And they said to one another, “Come, let us make bricks, and burn them thoroughly.” And they had brick for stone, and bitumen for mortar. Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city and a tower with its top in the heavens, and let us make a name for ourselves, lest we be dispersed over the face of the whole earth.”

I want to you to see something before we move on.

Genesis 11:4 LITV And they said, Come, let us build a city and a tower with its head in the heavens, and make a name for ourselves, that we not be scattered on the face of all the earth.

If you are anything like me, then for years you read a verse like this and said, how nice, never grasping the depth of what is happening here. It is not as simple as it looks and requires that you dig a little.

  1. God has yet to state that he will scatter them, but they almost seem to be prophesying over themselves by declaring: “that we not be scattered on the face of all the earth.” As you know, that happened.

  2. If we hear of someone who made a name for himself, there are generally admirable thoughts associated with that, like having a beautiful park named after that person. However there are those that were not so admirable, like: John Wayne Gacy, Charlie Manson, or Ted Bundy. They certainly made names for themselves.

  3. Here in America we have Donald Trump. He happens to be running for President, but he has his name plastered on many things he has built. The height and design are not necessarily the issue, and there is something more implicated in Genesis 11:4.

let us build us a city H5892 – (a place guarded by waking or a watch)

and let us make H6213 – accomplish

for ourselves a name H8034, – the Name (as designation of God)

I get the sense that they were trying to make their own name or god.

Babylon also represents false religion.”

According to Mark Hitchcock: “The first organized false religion has passed down from Babylon into all other false religions of the world. Their tower symbolizes the religious unity that dominated Babylon.”

The IVP Bible Background Commentary on the Old Testament tells us: The central feature of these early cities in southern Mesopotamia was the temple complex. Often, the temple complex was the city. The temple complex in this period would have been comprised of the temple itself, where the patron deity was worshiped, and, most prominently, by the ziggurat. Ziggurats were structures designed to provide stairways from the heavens (the gate of the gods) to earth so that the gods could come down into their temple and into the town and bring blessing. It was a convenience provided for the deity and his messengers. These stairways were featured in the mythology of the Sumerians and also are portrayed in Jacob’s dream.”

By the way:

The Hadron collider, often called CERN, has goals: Two of the major goals for CERN is to collapse and break apart the God Particle that creates and maintains our physical world and to tear a hole through the veil that is the barrier protecting our physical universe from the unknown, non-physical universes and other non-physical dimensions believed to be located outside our physical universe.”

So one might conclude that CERN, in a sense, is just another ziggurat attempting to bring the gods down to earth.

John Walvord summarizes the Babylonian religious system:

Nimrod, who founded Babylon, had a wife known as Semiramis who founded the secret religious rites of the Babylonian mysteries, according to accounts outside the bible. Semiramis has a son with an alleged miraculous conception who was given the name Tammuz and in effect was a false fulfillment of the promise of the seed of the woman given to Eve (Gen 3:15).”

Various religious practices were observed in connection with the false Babylonian religion, including recognition of the mother and child as God and of creating an order of virgins who became religious prostitutes. Tammuz, according to the tradition, was killed by a wild animal and restored to life, a satanic anticipation and counterfeit of Christ’s resurrection.”

Walvord adds:

Babylon then, is the symbol of apostasy and blasphemous substitution of idol-worship for the worship of God in Christ”.i

As to this last quote. Nimrod probably had no concept of Christ, so I do not think it is fair to pin that on him. However, since God found Noah to be favorable (there is a tremendous mystery about this man having to do with the heritage that might intrigue you, but I do not have the time here) you might assume that Noah had a strong concept of who God was. Keep in mind that any knowledge of God had to be verbally passed to the next generations. As the generations begin to rebuild something very dark creeps in and Noah curses one of his sons. It did not take that long for one generation to essentially move away from God. Project this idea three generations ahead and we have Nimrod.

The worship of Baal

Isaiah 21:9 LITV And, behold, here comes a chariot of a man, a pair of horses. And he answered and said, Babylon has fallen, has fallen! And He has smashed the graven images of her gods to the earth.

There is a clear sense of multiple gods. The prophet Jeremiah identifies two of them: Merodach and Bel.

Jeremiah 50:2 LITV Declare among the nations, and make them hear, and lift up a banner. Make them hear, do not hide it; say, Babylon is captured, Bel is put to shame, Merodach is broken in pieces, her images are put to shame, her idols are broken in pieces.

From John Gill’s commentary: Bel boweth down, Nebo stoopeth,…. These are names of the idols of Babylon. Bel is by some thought to be the contraction of Baal, the god of the Phoenicians, called by them Beel; so “Beelsamin” (h), in the Phoenician language, is Lord of heaven: but rather this is the Belus of the Babylonians, who was a renowned king of them, and after his death deified; whom Nebuchadnezzar, according to Megasthenes (i), calls Belus his progenitor, and by whom Babylon was walled about. This idol is, no doubt, the same with Jupiter Belus, who had a temple in Babylon with gates of brass, and which was in being in the times of Herodotus (k), as he reports. This name is sometimes taken into the names of their kings, as Belshazzar or Beltesbazaar. Nebo was another of their idols, an oracular one, from whom, by its priests, prophesies of things future were pretended to be given out…”ii

Back to Mark Hitchcock’s book – The Second Coming of Babylon.

From the beginning then, Babylon was both a town and a tower, a city and a system, a place and a philosophy. We will encounter this same twofold depiction of Babylon later when we look at Babylon in Revelation 17 and 18.”

From the beginning Satan has been at war. Sometimes it is hard to tell who he hates the most – God, or those that follow after him. After Satan deceives the woman we have God saying:

You and this woman will hate each other; your descendants and hers will always be enemies. One of hers will strike you on the head, and you will strike him on the heel.” (Genesis 3:15 CEV)

Hitchcock defined this epic struggle like this:

The situation at Babylon in Genesis 10-11 played right into Satan’s plan. While he is not mentioned by name, we can be certain that the old serpent introduced in Genesis 3 was working feverishly to energize this rebellious plan. In this setting he could influence and direct world affairs through one man.” …. “He could be ‘god’ in the eyes of all men, through occult worship and practices. After all, this is his desire.” ….. “The masses could also be converted to his false religion, with little to stand in his way.”

Make no mistake, God is, and has always been in control. Man, living in the illusion that he is in control, found out differently, for God came down and confounded their language, and scattered man across the face of the earth. Thus ended the first global community.

As Mark Hitchcock puts it:

Globalism was put on hold.

But Satan wasn’t finished.

He set out immediately to bring the world back together so he could control all of it once again.

In a sense, human history is the story of Satan working to bring man back to Babylon under his rule. This will finally happen according to Revelation 17 and 18. Both the city of Babylon and the false religion system of Babylon will be resurrected in the end times.”

So in trying to understand what Babylon is, keep this passage in mind.

Jeremiah 51:29 ESV “The land trembles and writhes in pain, for the LORD’s purposes against Babylon stand, to make the land of Babylon a desolation, without inhabitant.

Babylon, Iraq, 1932 CALL NUMBER: LC-M33- 14474...

Babylon, Iraq, 1932

We are looking at power structures, guided by the gods of greed and sensuality. Look around you. If you watch television sensuality is shoved down your throats on a daily basis – you want, you need, you cannot live without. Power structures, however, are sometimes hidden in plain sight. Examples are: the NWO, Illuminati, the Bilderberg group, and men like George Soros. Our musical and entertainment icons are constantly flashing Illuminati symbols at us.

Kanye and Jay-Z flashing an Illuminati sign.

Kanye and Jay-Z flashing an Illuminati sign.

I am telling you, you need Jesus Christ, because this is all coming to head quickly, and I foresee nothing but pain coming upon the earth.

*Emphasis mine

iJohn F. Walvoord, “Revelation” in Bible Knowledge Commentary, ed. John F, Walvoord and Roy B. Zuck (Wheaton, Ill: Victor Book, 1993), 2:970-71.

iiJohn Gill’s Exposition of the Entire Bible; Dr. John Gill (1690-1771)

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Babylon the Great – The short version.


Babylon the Great – What are we really talking about?

Of the imagery we find in scripture Babylon is another that gives people grief. If we try to define the Babylon we see in Revelation we have to ask, what is it and what are the implications for us?

This is my attempt at making a condensed overview of my blog on Babylon which is eight pages long. Personally, I think many of you want to know where information comes from instead merely getting slammed with a caption or a headline and then moving on to the next topic. That strikes more like someone’s opinion. I am full of opinions but I try to back them up with evidence, typically scriptural or historical.

A buddy had asked me to do a bible study with him on Revelation. I guess he thought we could do it in just a couple of weeks. Even my pastor had to take three or four to do his overview. Goodness gracious, I wrote eight pages trying to define the concept of Babylon and it was initiated by one verse. The Revelation speaks about Babylon extensively in chapters 17 and 18, but I can tell you that without some background information, for me, the water was still muddy and I was no further along in my understanding. I have always kinda thought that Babylon was something more than a chunk of desert, and it is. Having sorted through the possibilities I now I look forward to chapters 17 and 18.

Another angel, a second, followed, saying, “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great, she who made all nations drink the wine of the passion of her sexual immorality.”

(Revelation 14:8 ESV)

Clues from the passage itself?

  • Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great, ..”

    We know that during the reign or Nebuchadnezzar Babylon was great.

Daniel 2:37-38 ESV You, O king, — are the head of gold.

Can we make a solid connection between a Babylon that was once great and the modern-day world? No, so any greatness carries a different connotation these days.

Babylon, having served its purpose, was to receive God’s wrath.

Jeremiah 51:29 ESV “The land trembles and writhes in pain, for the LORD’s purposes against Babylon stand, to make the land of Babylon a desolation, without inhabitant.

If God tells us that Babylon is fallen, a land of desolation without inhabitants, then we need to look elsewhere for a definition. This means Babylon is more symbolic and I believe the key phrase here is “her sexual immorality”.

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Whore of Babylon (french illuminated “Book of Revelation”) (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

  • …she who made all nations drink the wine of the passion of her sexual immorality.”

    Since things seemingly went well for Daniel, we assume that all went well for Israel as well. The problem is that Israel had the horrid tendency to take on other gods, and Babylon was deeply entrenched in them. If you think about the fact that they threw Daniel’s companions into the fire, then its easier to understand that evil lurked in the background.

    Apparently we know far too little about Babylon because Revelation focuses rather intently on the words sexual immorality.

The prophet Jeremiah spoke a word against Babylon:

Jeremiah 50:1-2 ESV The word that the LORD spoke concerning Babylon, concerning the land of the Chaldeans, by Jeremiah the prophet: (2) “Declare among the nations and proclaim, set up a banner and proclaim, conceal it not, and say: ‘Babylon is taken, Bel is put to shame, Merodach is dismayed. Her images are put to shame, her idols are dismayed.’

From the IVPBBC “The name Bel Marduk then continues to be used by the Assyrians and the Neo-Babylonians, and his New Year’s festival is the celebration of the renewal of fertility and life. Even the Persian king Cyrus looked at his own accession to power and the capture of the city of Babylon as having been achieved through the assistance of Bel Marduk.

Now again, the question is, how do I perceive and apply this?

Mark Hitchcock, in his book The Second Coming of Babylon, states rather simplistically, “The city and the tower (of Babylon -emphasis mine) represent the two aspects of Babylon that continue today: political power balanced against rebellion and apostasy.”

Mark Hitchcock continues, “The city they built represents the political unity of the city of Babylon. Babylon was a literal place, ruled over by a literal king who exercised political power over all the inhabitants of the world.

I had to think about this for a moment.

Babylon, a lasting global political power?

I already pointed out that God decreed devastation upon Babylon. Common sense should tell you that Babylon’s ability to persist has to first be spiritualMany years after its establishment by Nimrod, and after the reign of Nebuchadnezzar, Babylon is captured by Cyrus, but this line from the IVPBBC is very telling: Even the Persian king Cyrus looked at his own accession to power and the capture of the city of Babylon as having been achieved through the assistance of Bel Marduk

We are introduced to the beginnings of Babylon in Genesis chapter 10, when we are told about the generations of Noah. The son of Ham was Cush, and Cush fathered Nimrod.

Let’s explore this for a minute.

Genesis 10:8 ESV Cush fathered Nimrod; he was the first on earth to be a mighty man.

He was the first on earth to be a mighty man??

The word mighty in the Hebrew is: gibbôr powerful; by implication warrior, tyrant. Another instance of the word gibbôr used to depict a mighty man comes before the flood, and describes the Nephilim upon the earth.

Genesis 6:4 ESV The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown.

Most do not believe Nimrod to have been a giant as much as he was of a reckless ferocity.

When it comes to reckless ferocity what names come to your mind? Og, the king of Bashan who may have been 13 feet tall; how about Genghis Khan, or Vlad the impaler.

So are we looking for something that has control much like Mark Hitchcock described, a strange mix of power, politics, rebellion against religion, and unity. Where do we find a mix like that? The NWO, Illuminati, the Bilderberg group, perhaps even the Masons. I am just saying. These groups seem to have the makings of a world dominance club, and there are fascinating things that back up these theories like Agenda 21.

Babylon was a literal place, ruled over by a literal king who exercised political power over all the inhabitants of the world.” Therefore this Babylon will exercise power over all the inhabitants of the world as well.

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Lessons Learned in Depression, That Couldn’t Be Learned on the Mountaintop


The wisdom of a newly found friend.

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This message“Lessons Learned in Depression, That Couldn’t Be Learned on the Mountaintop”  will be a quick read today.  As I think about this depression over the past 2 years or so, here are some things that I have learned about myself, God, and life.

  1. I matter, I am not bad, I have power, I can do good, I can love, I am worthy, I am joy.
  2. God has a purpose not only for me but for every single believer.
  3. It’s not enough to just to go to church once a week.
  4. When God says to give the first fruits of your work and tithe he doesn’t do that to punish you.  He does it to bless you.
  5. I’ve learned how to pray more effectively to God.
  6. I’ve learned that money isn’t everything.
  7. I’ve learned God isn’t a vengeful God, but a jealous God that is after…

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Flying directly overhead. Revelation 14: 6,7


I had a discussion with a friend and I spoke to him about how there was nothing to prevent the Lord from coming back to remove his church from the earth. He vehemently argued that the gospel had not been preached throughout the whole earth, and could not come back.

I pointed out that the bible said this would happen but could not give him the biblical reference at the time, so in his mind he won. Really? Are we just a world full of winners or losers? Perhaps we are simply selfish, deluded, or sadly lacking in biblical understanding. Most of the people I speak with basically operate within the framework of some tradition they have learned, and I rarely meet anyone that is willing to let go of tradition, especially when the bible speaks in direct opposition to their tradition.

It would be delusional to think that everyone in the world has heard the gospel, but I do know that the knowledge of good and evil is in every man. Since every person has the knowledge of good, then you have the ability to acknowledge the creator. I know many of you do not believe that, but I also know that many of you do not believe that God is a God of mercy. All that proves how little we know about the character and nature of God, and that knowledge is an essential aspect of our growth.

The answer to the argument, if one is needed, is that God will send an angel to preach the gospel throughout the entire earth.

Then I saw another angel flying directly overhead, with an eternal gospel to proclaim to those who dwell on earth, to every nation and tribe and language and people. And he said with a loud voice, “Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come, and worship him who made heaven and earth, the sea and the springs of water.”(Revelation 14:6-7 ESV)

This could be what they look like.

This could be what they look like.

I do not know what that will look like. Daniel, at seeing the angel, fell on his face. I have always wondered if that was out of fear. Well, think about it, what do they look like?

Balaam had one confront him, but he did not see it at first. The donkey he was riding saw it and smashed into the bank on one side of the trail. While we do not seem to be taken back by Balaam having a discussion with a donkey, but the man is not terribly phased by an angel standing in front of him with a sword.

The point to this is that there should be no doubt that everyone will see this angel.

I wish I could tell you that this happens before the rapture so that the entire world could get the degree of mercy we comprehend, because God, prior to unleashing his fury upon Israel and the nations, snatches his church out of the earth. This act of fury, is not only deserved, but devastating. Strangely, many people survive the continual onslaught, but do not change their minds or ways. The good aspect is that an uncountable number come to accept Jesus as the Messiah during this time.

If you do not know Jesus Christ as your own it is easy to do. He gave His own life so that you could live. In a sense, it is as if this world is one huge adoption agency, and God came, signed the paperwork, paid the fees, and invites all who would wish to become part of the family to merely sign their name to the paperwork and jump in the truck. The deep understanding would be to comprehend that God did all this for you, you understand it, and you accept that he loves he you and gives you a hope and future. That hope and future entails the promise of our life with Him.

All it takes is you opening your mouth and requesting that he come into your life, the life that you cannot handle, and take it over.

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The 144,000 – symbolic or literal? Revelation 14: 1-4


The 144,000

Revelation 14:1-5 CEV I looked and saw the Lamb standing on Mount Zion! With him were a hundred forty-four thousand, who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads. (2) Then I heard a sound from heaven that was like a roaring flood or loud thunder or even like the music of harps. (3) And a new song was being sung in front of God’s throne and in front of the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn that song, except the one hundred forty-four thousand who had been rescued from the earth. (4) All of these are pure virgins, and they follow the Lamb wherever he leads. They have been rescued to be presented to God and the Lamb as the most precious people on earth. (5) They never tell lies, and they are innocent.

Sometimes I like to work from the assumption that I just stumbled onto this portion of the bible. Besides, if you attend church then you know that you constantly sit by those that never open their bibles. Assuming you were that person and were directed here, how you come to understand what you were reading?

Revelation 14:1 ESV Then I looked, and behold, on Mount Zion stood the Lamb, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads.

Mount Zion in Israel

Mount Zion in Israel

I do not think I would have any idea how to interpret this.

I am going take several quotes from The IVP Bible Background Commentary, and see if they help explain anything.

Rev_14:1. “And I looked, and behold” indicates another vision”.

Now they reference (Ezekiel 10:1; Ezekiel 44:4; Daniel 10:5), I suppose in hopes of backing up their argument.

If I only look at Ezekiel 10:1, I feel completely lost.

Ezekiel 10:1 ESV Then I looked, and behold, on the expanse that was over the heads of the cherubim there appeared above them something like a sapphire, in appearance like a throne.

So all they are doing here is pointing out the similarity of the phrase “Then I looked, and behold.” How does this prove that at some moment in time John has had another vision in which he is now seeing the 144,000 standing on Mount Zion with the Lamb.

Let’s look at the other verse they gave and see where they go.

Ezekiel 44:4 ESV Then he brought me by way of the north gate to the front of the temple, and I looked, and behold, the glory of the LORD filled the temple of the LORD. And I fell on my face.

Just another example of the phrase “then I looked and behold,” again.

Since that was a flop let’s try a different approach. I want to spend a few minutes looking at example of Mount Zion since that is an aspect of the 144,000.

The first one I find is:

And the surviving remnant of the house of Judah shall again take root downward and bear fruit upward. For out of Jerusalem shall go a remnant, and out of Mount Zion a band of survivors. The zeal of the LORD will do this. (2 Kings 19:30-31 ESV)

This may mean nothing to you but I find several things grabbing my attention. Knowing that Jerusalem will be destroyed, I see a remnant coming out of Jerusalem, and out of Mount Zion a band of survivors.

While this says nothing about the 144,000 who are standing on Mount Zion the following verse indicates what happens after the Lamb conducts business.

Isaiah 10:12 ESV When the Lord has finished all his work on Mount Zion and on Jerusalem, he will punish the speech of the arrogant heart of the king of Assyria and the boastful look in his eyes.

Apparently his interactions with the 144,000 come before he finalizes the punishment of the arrogant king.

Back to the IVPBBC: Mount Zion was the Temple Mount (sometimes loosely encompassing all Jerusalem), thus applied to the heavenly temple in the present (Rev_11:19) but pointing to the new Jerusalem of the future (Rev_21:2), a hope shared by nearly all ancient Jews, who longed for the restoration of their city and its sanctuary.”

What else can I know about these 144,000.

We found them originally in Revelation chapter seven.

Revelation 7:3-4 ESV saying, “Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, until we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads.” (4) And I heard the number of the sealed, 144,000, sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel:

Should you decide to read this in your bible, you will find that specifics go on to verse eight, and describes 12,000 taken from designated ancestral groupings (tribes) of Israel. How vital that is to our understanding I do not know.

What is important to me, is this: “the sealed, 144,000, sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel.

I have come to see that my former pastor was not alone in his thinking, as many apparently think these 144,000 are merely symbolic. I actually think he is a fairly intelligent guy, but if you cannot prove your statement with some solid evidence then you need to shut up, and he did not. Having read several commentaries on the 144,000 I believe I can see where he got what he said. That does not make it right, and if you are a student of the bible, you can find it very annoying.

Here is what the IVPBBC, and a couple of others imply: The Sealing of 144,000 Servants – One can take the 144,000 either consistently literally (literally twelve thousand male Jewish virgins from each tribe—Rev_14:4) or consistently symbolically (the spiritual people of God, not literally 144,000). (Those who take the number but not the ethnicity, gender and sexual history literally are inconsistent.) Against taking it literally is Revelation’s usage elsewhere of “servants” (Rev_1:1; Rev_6:11), suggesting that they constitute the whole of the saved community (Rev_7:3-4). But whether they represent the innumerable multitude of Rev_7:9 or the restored remnant of ethnic Israel remains debated.

And this is why I left a church after several weeks of Revelation teachings that emphasized that the 144,000 represented the whole of the saved community (raptured believers I assume). It also seemed that pastor turned virtually everything into something symbolic. No doubt the Revelation is awash in symbolism, but some of these aspects as real as rocks. In my opinion, these 144,000 will be Jewish men, handpicked by God to testify to Jews.

Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, until we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads.

A quick chronology of Revelation:

  • Chapter four speaks of the churches, and then ends with – after these things. It is only logical to assume that the things are indicative of the church age on earth.

  • Chapter five presents the Lamb who is worthy.

and I began to weep loudly because no one was found worthy to open the scroll or to look into it. And one of the elders said to me, “Weep no more; behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has conquered, so that he can open the scroll and its seven seals.” And between the throne and the four living creatures and among the elders I saw a Lamb standing, as though it had been slain, with seven horns and with seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent out into all the earth. (Revelation 5:4-6 ESV)

  • In chapter six we see the seals being opened. Peace is removed from the earth. A rider on a white horse carrying a bow and a crown was given to him. I happen to believe that this rider represents a false peace (there is a “religion” that claims to be a religion of peace but wants you dead if you are non-compliant). The fact that the crown is given to him could mean that eventually one leader rises up to head whatever this deliverer of false peace is. (Clue – think Caliphate)

  • Now we up to chapter seven where we see the 144,000. Immediately we are confronted with:

Revelation 7:1-2 ESV After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth, that no wind might blow on earth or sea or against any tree. (2) Then I saw another angel ascending from the rising of the sun, with the seal of the living God, and he called with a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm earth and sea,

These are released with the express purpose of destroying the earth. And yet, just prior to this destruction, God intentionally seals 144,000 Jewish men – virgins, so that they will not be harmed.

Harpo Marx, I just had to do it.

Harpo Marx, I just had to do it.

Revelation 14:3-4 MSG and the harpists singing a new song before the Throne and the Four Animals and the Elders. Only the Hundred and Forty-four Thousand could learn to sing the song. They were bought from earth, (4) lived without compromise, virgin-fresh before God. Wherever the Lamb went, they followed. They were bought from humankind, firstfruits of the harvest for God and the Lamb.

lived without compromise”

How do I relate to that? We were all born into a corrupted nature, therefore it seems impossible to imagine someone living without compromise. John had come to learn that such people existed.

Zephaniah 3:13 KJV The remnant of Israel shall not do iniquity, nor speak lies; neither shall a deceitful tongue be found in their mouth: for they shall feed and lie down, and none shall make them afraid.

If you try to assign the characteristics of these chosen Jews to the church, it simply does not fit because they have too many human characteristics, therefore I will cling hard to a literal interpretation of the 144,000; thank you.

Notice something:

Revelation 7:3 ESV saying, “Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, until we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads.

Since I know four angels are about to tear the earth up, and God has sealed these Jewish servants, then it is a logical assumption that they must go through the years of wrath along all those who will not worship (We are told that those who do not bow are those whose name is written in the book of life.) I am going to throw in this passage in Revelation 13 to show that the Father already knows those who written in the book of life.

Also it was allowed to make war on the saints and to conquer them. And authority was given it over every tribe and people and language and nation, and all who dwell on earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain. (Revelation 13:7-8 ESV)

Consider an irony.

God has written His name on their foreheads, and no, we do not know what that looks like, who will be able to see it (we know these four angels can see it), or how it gets there. However, Satan/the beast goes around trying to copy God’s idea, and having people marked that have converted to a worship of the beast. (Again, I point out that I believe this is Islam doing and the beast is Allah.)

One of the things I tell people, is that John fully intended for his writing to strike the ears of Jewish converts. You can pick up on this idea because he uses terminology and symbolism that is found throughout the law and the prophets, books any Jew serious about his religion would have been compelled to memorize, primarily through audible methods alone. An example is found in the Prophet Ezekiel’s writings where judgment could not begin until the foreheads of the righteous (those who mourned over the sin of their land) were marked.

Ezekiel 9:4-5 ESV And the LORD said to him, “Pass through the city, through Jerusalem, and put a mark on the foreheads of the men who sigh and groan over all the abominations that are committed in it.” (5) And to the others he said in my hearing, “Pass through the city after him, and strike. Your eye shall not spare, and you shall show no pity.

The imagery is already well entrenched in the Jewish mind. It is a shame that it is not in ours.

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It is for us to know. Luke 10:8


One of the popular phrases in “churchianity”, especially in these last days, is, “no man knows the day or the hour.” This of course gets applied to our ability to comprehend when Jesus is coming back for the church.

no man knows the day or the hour.”

Allow me to try to debunk this statement.

First it has a context, and it is vital to understand the context before you can understand the scope of the statement, so let us look at that.

The verse itself is found in Matthew 24:36. It was the culmination of an ongoing barrage of questions from the crowd, the disciples, the elders and the chief priests. Matthew 22 shows us Jesus entering Jerusalem, riding on the colt, as a triumphant king might. This is exactly what Israel was looking for, but that all changed as he entered the temple with a whip made of cords.

Matthew 21:12-13 ESV And Jesus entered the temple and drove out all who sold and bought in the temple, and he overturned the tables of the money-changers and the seats of those who sold pigeons. (13) He said to them, “It is written, ‘My house shall be called a house of prayer,’ but you make it a den of robbers.”

Prior to this they must have thought he would make his grand announcement, declaring his Kingship and instructions on how to overthrow the Roman oppression. Well that did not happen, instead He overthrew tradition and the tables of the money-changers. Quickly the adoring crowd turned hostile, especially the religious authorities.

Upon returning to the temple the next morning he is confronted by the chief priests and the elders, and they vehemently challenged him:

Matthew 21:23 ESV And when he entered the temple, the chief priests and the elders of the people came up to him as he was teaching, and said, “By what authority are you doing these things, and who gave you this authority?”

Jesus calmly put them in their place with a question which they could not, nor would not answer.

Jesus answered them, “I also will ask you one question, and if you tell me the answer, then I also will tell you by what authority I do these things. The baptism of John, from where did it come? From heaven or from man?” And they discussed it among themselves, saying, “If we say, ‘From heaven,’ he will say to us, ‘Why then did you not believe him?’ But if we say, ‘From man,’ we are afraid of the crowd, for they all hold that John was a prophet.” So they answered Jesus, “We do not know.” And he said to them, “Neither will I tell you by what authority I do these things. (Matthew 21:24-27 ESV)

The conversations and parables seem to have continued there at the temple until Jesus and the disciples finally walked away. With all that had happened over the last two days, if he wanted the twelve to see anything, it was that He was God and had everything in control.

Wouldn’t you know it, after all that, several of the guys:

Matthew 24:1 ESV Jesus left the temple and was going away, when his disciples came to point out to him the buildings of the temple.

The temple must have been magnificent. A symbol of their God, and the place where God dwells. The idea behind this can come from Numbers chapter 2 where the tabernacle is central to their focus:

From Nelson’s New Illustrated Bible Commentary” – tabernacle of meeting. In the line of march, the tabernacle was in the central position—a symbol of not only Israel’s protection of the holy objects, but also of the presence of God among His people.

Perhaps Jesus heart just sank at moments like this. After all you have seen and heard over the last two days and you have to show me this edifice. The same structure I threw the money-changers out of. I get it, its architecturally inspiring, but not what I wanted you to focus on.

Jesus responds to the disciples very specific questions with:

…, “You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.” (Matthew 24:2 ESV)

Those foundation stones took an army of men to move and place there. Destroying it does not even seem possible, and yet it happened in 70 A.D., approximately forty years after Jesus death and resurrection, when Jerusalem was under the reign of the Roman Emperor Titus Vespasian. (That is a whole other story.) The temple had been lined with Cedar and there were curtains draped everywhere, not to mention that almost everything inside was made of gold or covered in it. So when it got burned they dismantled the building to get at the gold that had melted and went between the cracks.

Several minutes passed and they are now on the Mount of Olives, one of Jesus’ favorite places, when they ask:

As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?” (Matthew 24:3 ESV)

To be honest, they have not figured out much of what He has said to them. We know this because scripture tells us that they did not get it until after His death.

So Peter went out with the other disciple, and they were going toward the tomb. Both of them were running together, but the other disciple outran Peter and reached the tomb first. And stooping to look in, he saw the linen cloths lying there, but he did not go in. Then Simon Peter came, following him, and went into the tomb. He saw the linen cloths lying there, and the face cloth, which had been on Jesus’ head, not lying with the linen cloths but folded up in a place by itself. Then the other disciple, who had reached the tomb first, also went in, and he saw and believed; for as yet they did not understand the Scripture, that he must rise from the dead.  (John 20:3-9 ESV)

The last two days for the disciples had been interesting to say the least, but now you are telling us that the temple, the symbol of who Israel is, will be destroyed. They were just a little confused, as they were the ones that put him on the colt. They watched the adoring crowds and knew what it meant, but this fizzled like a child’s toy rocket. I suppose this is really what the context is all about – who are you and where is this going?

If I have a strong grasp on the context, then what is the answer to the question?

So, the second thing we have to pay attention to is one of the first things He said:

And Jesus answered them, “See that no one leads you astray.” (Matthew 24:4 ESV)

This is vital, and needs to be your anchor, no matter what happens.

Here is a piece of truth for you; you will be led astray by just about anything that comes your way if you do not spend time in God’s word.

How many people and things are out there that are willing to lead you astray? In truth, the number is astronomical. Just in the 20th and 21st century there were about 27 people who claimed the title of Jesus or Messiah. Several found their callings while in prison. One felt called to go shoot the President of the United States, so it seems like it would be rather easy to sort out the good from the bad. And yet we are led astray by the simplest of things, like false teachers, especially if they have a strong personality and a great smile.

So what did they ask him?

Matthew 24:3 LITV And as He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, Tell us, when will these things be? And, What is the sign of Your coming and of the end of the age?

This is one of the reasons why I wanted you to understand what had gone on for the past two days of their lives. Now, What did they ask him?

  1. Tell us, when will these things be?

They had just pointed out the temple and found out that it is all coming down. They had to understand that there would be some huge calamity associated with that, and they wanted to know when. Soon is not really an answer in my book, so did He answer the question?

  1. What is the sign of Your coming?

Like I said, the disciples put him on the colt and led him triumphantly into the city. They had hopes of him being the messiah, but it all came to a crashing halt when he threw the money-changers out of the temple. Now their question is, how will we know when you are going to come back as the Messiah we expected? This is not only answered by Jesus, but the signs are spoken of all throughout the Law and the prophets.

  1. When is time up?” as Eugene Peterson puts it in the Message.

When does all this come to a crashing halt, and your kingdom begin? That understanding has to imply all the horrific events that lead up to the end. Sadly, only a third of Israel survives the onslaught. This too was an aspect of the answer Jesus gave them.

Take the time to study Matthew 24:6-31. The detailed description continues, but I will leave you to finish reading it. Ask yourself, as you scan through what Jesus said, is there anything here which you have not seen happening? NO.

One of the markers of the end times – a huge and significant one – seems to have come in the form of a parable:

“From the fig tree learn its lesson: as soon as its branch becomes tender and puts out its leaves, you know that summer is near. So also, when you see all these things, you know that he is near, at the very gates. Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. (Matthew 24:32-34 ESV)

The fig tree is Israel, and Israel has significant dates such as:

  • 1917 when the Balfour declaration was signed; Arthur James Balfour’s purpose in confirming support from the British government, was for the establishment in Palestine of a “national home” for the Jewish people.

  • In 1948 Israel became a nation, and the United States was one of the first to recognize them as such. How dreadful it is to see our American President turn against the nation of Israel.

  • The most recent of events was the 1967 six-day war. In this war Israel regained all the territories it had previously possessed. That possession was short-lived as they were pressured by the U.N., to give back much of the land. (Someone tried recently to argue that prophecy had not been fulfilled because was supposed to repossess all their former lands and that had not been done. While my mind is not as sharp as it might have been once, the Holy Spirit brought this piece of information about the six-day war back to mind and shut down this argument.)

Other signs: There will be a treaty signed; a third temple built; a great deception, and again, the desecration of the temple – just as before. These are yet to come.

I would love to be able to say, you can count seven years with precision after the rapture, but God – the creator of time – does not seem to be restricted by time. It seems God uses time more like a guide, so he may come sooner or he may come later, but know this he will come.

Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away. (Matthew 24:35 ESV)

Now, can we hold God to a precise timing about when he will come back as the Messiah?

Sorry, but no.

Matthew 24:35-36 NASB “Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away. (36) “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.

This does not mean that God cannot be trusted, nor does it mean that you cannot know the season. I mentioned Rabbi Mark Biltz because he alerted us to the blood moons – signs that show that we are in a significant season.

This idea of signs and seasons is not new; it is as old as Genesis itself.

And God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night. And let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and years, (Genesis 1:14 ESV)

The Prophet Joel told us that the moon turning to blood would be a significant sign, as well as the sun turning dark.

Joel 2:31 ESV The sun shall be turned to darkness, and the moon to blood, before the great and awesome day of the LORD comes.

Are you aware of how bad the smog is in China? Look at this – 

China must broadcast videos of the sun because the smog is so bad

China must broadcast videos of the sun because the smog is so bad

BEIJING, CHINA - The LED screen shows the blue sky on the Tiananmen Square at dangerous levels of air pollution on January 23, 2013 in Beijing, China. (Photo by Feng Li/Getty Images)

BEIJING, CHINA – The LED screen shows the blue sky on the Tiananmen Square (Photo by Feng Li/Getty Images)

In Beijing they cannot even see the sky and must broadcast videos of what it looks like.

Since the subtopic is seasons for the moment, does a fruit tree respond to seasons? Certainly it does, but the fruit tree is really responding to environmental changes. No, I am not preaching climate change, I am only pointing out the obvious. Here in Southern California plants that used to produce fruit or leaves in March or later, are now producing foliage in February. Why? Because they are responding to the environment. They have adjusted and moved the time of their season. Is it possible that God can adjust time to fit his demand? Do we have the right to tell God when He gets to initiate his season? NO.

God can be trusted, but if he controls time, and he does, it just makes sense to not make predictions.

Considering the laugh-ability reason, enjoyed by both the world and certain aspects of the global church, especially when vocal people make a prediction and then nothing happens. It just makes sense to not make predictions. One personality that stands out in my mind was Harold Camping. I suspect that most of us knew nothing about Camping’s claims until the end when he had put up billboards declaring his predictions. He also had members of his church close bank accounts and give him the money (that is the aspect that ruffles my feathers). Camping claimed that the rapture would be on May 21, 2011 followed by the end of the world on October 21 of the same year. Well, 2011 has come and gone, Harold Camping has died, and what of the money? I digress.

On Wikipedia someone has listed Rabbi Mark Biltz as predicting the end in September of 2015. Mark Biltz was one of the earliest writers alerting us to the significance of the blood moons, their ties to Jewish Holidays, and their scientific documentation by NASA. The world is about to experience the last blood we will see in our lifetimes and it falls precisely on September 28, one of the highest Jewish Holy Days called Yom Kippur – the day of Atonement. Having listened to Mark Biltz on many occasions I can tell you that he backs away from date setting. Pastor John Hagee, it seems, jumped on the bandwagon initiated by others.

Is it just a coincidence that most of these have occurred within close proximity to Jewish holidays or horrid events involving the Jewish community throughout the world? I don’t think so. 

Here are some other statements we are good at bashing each other with:

  • That has been done away with! (I am not going to take the time to explain it. If you have heard it, then you know what I am talking about. Those who say this are often referring to the gifts of the Holy Spirit.)

  • That is out of context! (You typically get this from the bible thumpers; you know, the people who always have some biblical point they have to make that proves their righteousness. These points are mostly composed of their opinions.)

  • God was speaking directly to someone, therefore what was said was applicable to them but not to us. (Really? Then what do you do with, 2 Timothy 3:16 NASB All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;)

I am sure I left some of the juicy ones out, but you get the point. There is always something that can be used to divert and discourage even the strongest of believers.

If I can feel comfortable using Matthew 24:36 to shut someone up, thinking I am religiously correct, scoring big points with God for slamming you, then I should just as readily quote Luke 10:8, even in its partial state, saying, “it is for you to know the mysteries.”

(Luke 8:9-10 ESV) And when his disciples asked him what this parable meant, he said, “To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of God, but for others they are in parables, so that ‘seeing they may not see, and hearing they may not understand.’

Arguments against using this verse are extremely weak, just as they are for using Matthew 24:36, but allow me to point out a couple of quick ones:

  • In Luke’s gospel he is referring to secrets or mysteries, and not the overall time-table of God’s plan. If you want to be specific, the mysteries are embedded in the parables – stories designed to show those who are paying attention the depth and truth within the kingdom of God. Daniel spoke of mysteries, and yet the angel of the Lord explained that in the last days knowledge would abound. That tends to tell me that the knowledge of the end and God’s holy plan would be more clear and some of us would get it. I get it.

In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace, which he lavished upon us, in all wisdom and insight making known to us the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth. (Ephesians 1:7-10 ESV)

Yet among the mature we do impart wisdom, although it is not a wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are doomed to pass away. But we impart a secret and hidden wisdom of God, which God decreed before the ages for our glory. (1 Corinthians 2:6-7 ESV)

For I want you to know how great a struggle I have for you and for those at Laodicea and for all who have not seen me face to face, that their hearts may be encouraged, being knit together in love, to reach all the riches of full assurance of understanding and the knowledge of God’s mystery, which is Christ, in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. (Colossians 2:1-3 ESV)

  • Another argument that might be used against Luke 8:9-10 would be idea that the disciples asked a specific question requiring a specific, directed answer. This, again, is why I took the time to talk about the context involved with Matthew 24:36, since that was a series of directed questions and they were hoping for a specific and direct answer.

    Is this applicable only to the disciples? We have really covered this concern before, but I give it to you again:

    All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;” 2 Timothy 3:16 NASB

Therefore all scripture is fair game when used in context. We are all very skillful at discouraging others when they go outside of the box we decide they have to live in. Christ gives us a tremendous amount of freedom, and most of us have a brain, so let’s use them to do proper bible study, and pay attention to the signs going on around us.

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